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Re: seagreen finch

Posted: 10 Jan 2019, 19:42
by nicko
Vettepilot_6 - Do they prefer an open nest or closed dark nest box.
Good I have some old man saltbush in the garden for my finches

Re: seagreen finch

Posted: 10 Jan 2019, 21:10
by vettepilot_6
Mine all use nestboxes and pack it heavily with november grass and emu feathers...so packed you cant see in if you wanted to...😊

Re: seagreen finch

Posted: 10 Jan 2019, 22:49
by Stu
arthur wrote: ↑09 Jan 2019, 11:51 If they've DEFINITELY come from 2 normal looking parents . .

They are DEFINITELY 2 hens . . 100%
Yep.

Re: seagreen finch

Posted: 11 Jan 2019, 10:09
by finchbreeder
Have both of these birds come from 2 normal looking parents? Are they from different pairs?
LML

Re: seagreen finch

Posted: 11 Jan 2019, 13:00
by Tiaris
nicko wrote: ↑10 Jan 2019, 19:42 Vettepilot_6 - Do they prefer an open nest or closed dark nest box.
Good I have some old man saltbush in the garden for my finches
Mine love a six-inch plastic pot with the top screwed onto a square of plywood & the top half of the base cut off. I hang these at knee height & they invariably are the preferred nest site for my RFPFs.

Re: seagreen finch

Posted: 12 Jan 2019, 09:11
by nicko
finchbreeder wrote: ↑11 Jan 2019, 10:09 Have both of these birds come from 2 normal looking parents? Are they from different pairs?
LML

The people I bought them from have 2 pairs of RFPF's but only one pair seem to be breeding seagreens, they are avid bird keepers with many different breeds so I think so.
By the way finchbreeder, what's called normal looking ??

Re: seagreen finch

Posted: 12 Jan 2019, 09:25
by Tiaris
Normal is bright green body & bright red head & tail. Sea-green is a sex-linked recessive colour mutation.
If they were both bred from normal phenotype (appearance) parents, it is not possible to have a male sea-green.
Having said that, I am convinced the 2 pics of your birds are a male in the top pic & on the left in the bottom one, so it is not likely that this bird at least was produced from 2 red & green RFPFs (male split to sea-green).

Re: seagreen finch

Posted: 12 Jan 2019, 19:03
by finchbreeder
"If they were both bred from normal phenotype (appearance) parents, it is not possible to have a male sea-green.
Having said that, I am convinced the 2 pics of your birds are a male in the top pic & on the left in the bottom one, so it is not likely that this bird at least was produced from 2 red & green RFPFs (male split to sea-green)."

That's why I asked, because I had re read the series of posts and was a little confused how they came from the same pair of "normals" when they look like a "real" pair. But if the suppliers have several pair then it is more likely, if they actually have seagreens. And much better because you will not be putting siblings together.
LML

Re: seagreen finch

Posted: 12 Jan 2019, 20:38
by nicko
Four AFF people have said they're a pair so I'll take that - mybe I got the wrong end of the stick, any way I'm happy.
All this sex linked recessive buisiness is something I don't quite comprehend yet.

Re: seagreen finch

Posted: 13 Jan 2019, 08:32
by arthur
Even if you don't understand the 'mechanics', you should keep a copy of the expectations

Pairings where genetic make-up cannot be guaranteed should be avoided, for obvious reasons . .

Not least of which is to protect your own reputation when selling



You can find a 'calculator' for RFPF mutations on the 'net . . :thumbup:

http://www.finchbreederdatabase.com/php ... cies_id=32