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Re: Getting back into it!

Post by STUART WHITING » 09 Nov 2017, 18:04

micarle wrote:
09 Nov 2017, 14:08
Thanks a lot , Picked up a large aviary that i had stored at my dads so mite start putting that up in the next week or two. Also trying to get my class two bird keepers licence up and running again, i let it expire but they say i mite be ok....fingers crossed.
Class 2 birdkeepers license :shock:

Do yer need a license then to keep Australian native finches :?
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Re: Getting back into it!

Post by starman » 13 Nov 2017, 07:21

STUART WHITING wrote:
09 Nov 2017, 18:04
micarle wrote:
09 Nov 2017, 14:08
Thanks a lot , Picked up a large aviary that i had stored at my dads so mite start putting that up in the next week or two. Also trying to get my class two bird keepers licence up and running again, i let it expire but they say i mite be ok....fingers crossed.
Class 2 birdkeepers license :shock:

Do yer need a license then to keep Australian native finches :?
Yes.
Our Native Animal Keepers Licence is currently under review. At present, the only native finches that do not require a licence to keep (in NSW at least), are Zebras, Stars, Painteds, Gouldians, and Blue Faced Parrot Finches. Species that are deemed to require specialist expertise for their welfare require higher class licencing.
None of our native species can be legally trapped.
Of interest to you, Stuart.... European Goldfinches and Greenfinches can be trapped, sold and kept without a licence.
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Re: Getting back into it!

Post by STUART WHITING » 13 Nov 2017, 07:51

starman wrote:
13 Nov 2017, 07:21
STUART WHITING wrote:
09 Nov 2017, 18:04
micarle wrote:
09 Nov 2017, 14:08
Thanks a lot , Picked up a large aviary that i had stored at my dads so mite start putting that up in the next week or two. Also trying to get my class two bird keepers licence up and running again, i let it expire but they say i mite be ok....fingers crossed.
Class 2 birdkeepers license :shock:

Do yer need a license then to keep Australian native finches :?
Yes.
Our Native Animal Keepers Licence is currently under review. At present, the only native finches that do not require a licence to keep (in NSW at least), are Zebras, Stars, Painteds, Gouldians, and Blue Faced Parrot Finches. Species that are deemed to require specialist expertise for their welfare require higher class licencing.
None of our native species can be legally trapped.
Of interest to you, Stuart.... European Goldfinches and Greenfinches can be trapped, sold and kept without a licence.
That's interesting as I really didn't honestly know that certain Australian finches were under license, I suppose birds like yer Crimson finches would be under this category,

That's unreal about the Goldies and greenies being allowed to be trapped, sold and kept, I know a of a few here that get a few out of the sky and yes I even done a bit meself many years ago, well over 20 years ago I might add :shh:

Nowadays one would seriously be in for the high jump if got caught, in all honesty since I've come back into the bird game as of last year I wouldn't go down the route of keeping British / European finches anymore,

The birds that I specialise in now are munias, mannikins and a few Australian finches :thumbup:
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Re: Getting back into it!

Post by starman » 13 Nov 2017, 17:33

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Nowadays one would seriously be in for the high jump if got caught, in all honesty since I've come back into the bird game as of last year I wouldn't go down the route of keeping British / European finches anymore,
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I find that interesting , Stuart.
In this part of the world the Goldfinch is popular with some people who like its appearance and its low price ($10 each), but not so popular with others due to its skittish behaviour and general nervousness. They tend not to settle in anything but very large and planted enclosures. From what I can gather this is attributable to the fact that most of those available at sales are wild caught birds or ones that have been aviary bred for just a few generations. I think that the settled and partly domesticated birds are kept for breeding and don't seem to come up for sale all that often.
I believe they were a favourite of the late Russell Kingston and adorn the cover of his 'The Finch...A Breeder's Companion', a worthy honour for a pretty little bird.

I've gone right off topic here.... back to the original thread.
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Re: Getting back into it!

Post by STUART WHITING » 13 Nov 2017, 18:36

starman wrote:
13 Nov 2017, 17:33
STUART WHITING wrote:
Nowadays one would seriously be in for the high jump if got caught, in all honesty since I've come back into the bird game as of last year I wouldn't go down the route of keeping British / European finches anymore,
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I find that interesting , Stuart.
In this part of the world the Goldfinch is popular with some people who like its appearance and its low price ($10 each), but not so popular with others due to its skittish behaviour and general nervousness. They tend not to settle in anything but very large and planted enclosures. From what I can gather this is attributable to the fact that most of those available at sales are wild caught birds or ones that have been aviary bred for just a few generations. I think that the settled and partly domesticated birds are kept for breeding and don't seem to come up for sale all that often.
I believe they were a favourite of the late Russell Kingston and adorn the cover of his 'The Finch...A Breeder's Companion', a worthy honour for a pretty little bird.

I've gone right off topic here.... back to the original thread.
Yep I quite agree Sm, don't get me wrong mate as many Uk breeders here do keep genuine avairy bred British birds but I know for fact that many birds are still wild caught, yes yer right that the wild caught are rather scitish and and fetch far less money because of this,

The biggest problem is that many grey pates " baby Goldies " are taken and then put straight onto hard seed, this is the biggest mistake that can be made, most young birds in the wild would not be eating hard seed yet and so would need to be given soaked seed and fresh wild green seeds etc, this is why many caught Goldies here end up by waisting away and dying,

Absolutely terrible state of affairs and is just shear stupidity, ignorerance and neglect,

One of the very reasons I've pulled out of the British bird game, the laws are so very strict over here now and even if one has legitimate birds I've seen so many people get tugged by the officials it just ain't worth all of the hassle that can now be involved
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Re: Getting back into it!

Post by finchbreeder » 14 Nov 2017, 09:48

And the licencing rules vary from state to state here too. But then again we could fit a couple of european countries in some of our states with room to spare. Goldfinches in WA are avairy bred and quiet. I saw a small group of 5 (1 hen and 4 cocks by my eye) in the pet shop next to Joondelup Bunnings last week. They were in a standard pet shop cabinet and while active not flighty with me peering at them.
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