Naming rights, who should have the Honour

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KENTUCKY wrote:This is for Natamambo, I distinctly remember when we met at the Mornington Bird sales that you gave me to understand that you spend time in Scotland where you studied genetics, all I can say for myself is that my wires must have been not only crossed but badly twisted for getting it so horribly wrong, it was not my intention to step on your toes or belittle you .
I would like to think that you will loose no sleep over it.
Thank you for your contribution and an splendid article.
Kentucky
I can blame my medication Kentucky, looks like you'll have to just blame your age :lol: .
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I just reread your offering, Arthur. Silver is also very subjective. Especially with respect to Gouldians. I don't understand this throwing rocks. I was meaning that those names mean nothing with regard to the genetics of the thing. It was not my intention to attack the names themselves. People do get touchy. This is a misunderstanding. I could blame medication or age but I'll put it down to an overactive pen ! I write too much!!! :)
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maz wrote:snip
Lacewing is another one in budgies which people think are a single mutation rather than a combination....it happens everywhere unfortunately. Oh and I have one of those Melbourne Uni genetics degrees too lol
Now you're really really trying to confuse people Maz. Lacewing being made from a 1% chance of ino and cinnamon genes crossing over on to the other chromosome before the egg / sperm is made :ugeek: . Trying to explain that is like trying to explain double factor spangles which which only have the base colour (yellow or white) but black eyes or double factor yellow faced blues which have white faces not yellow. Now, there's two really confusing phenotypes! Compared to budgies, Gouldians are pretty simple genetics wise at this stage.
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SamDavis wrote:
crocnshas wrote:... it should be called Craig :shock:
I agree let's call it Craig :lol: :lol: :lol:
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arthur
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Uraeginthus wrote: I don't understand this throwing rocks
Uri . .

The bottom part of my post was aimed at the people who do not understand genetics and because of this, assume that this is some kind of witchcraft, which must be exorcised from our hobby

It was certainly not aimed in your direction

I don't know that I am touchy . . but I do get upset with those who, through lack of understanding, label mutation breeders as the scourge of our hobby . . and I am certain that you are not in this category

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Have been reading this subject and biting my tounge. Lets all agree to breed what we find enjoyable and challenging. And forget the others. And let everybody else do the same. :soppy: Hybrids aside. :hothead: Genetics have a very important place in our society. They are how scientists find cures for many diseases (human, animal and plant) and how my daughter is about to do her Honours degree :thumbup: As for naming........................ Genetic naming makes more sence even when it may at first seem to contradict what our eyes can see. So go the AYB which happens to be a white bird with gray marks on its back.
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Just to jump on the band wagon because I have been enjoying this discussion...

I enjoy throwing rocks so don't really understand if it really had negative or positive connotations...

As with the naming of mutations, regardless of if the name indicates the genetic make up or mode of inheritance, or just the visual aspects of the mutation, the names should be internationally standardised... It will never happen I know but that would be the ideal scenario...

I also breed Lovebirds and we constantly struggle with this situation.
Ultimately, as per previous posts, the best solution I can offer would be the following naming structure...

Craig
Craig type 2
Craig type 3
Craig type 4...
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No worries, Arthur. I'm the touchy one!!!! Tom
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Can we build on Timh's idea:

Craig-ino,

Split Craig,

ParCraig and my favourite: a crested double factor Craig weak and puny from inbreeding.

(sorry, Craig :) )
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Why not just rename them Smeeldians and be done with it.
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