Crickets

[jusdeb]

What is the protein % of egg yolk ?
Dont know about any of this really , all I know is mine wont touch live food so I always have a bowl of veta farm live food stuff in the cages , they pick at it now and then .
The frozen bloodworms I buy( and of course I dont have the wrapper ) is treated to kill bacteria and has vitamins added , since the worms are raw I gather they have been treated chemilcally and not heat treated .
I dont like using them but the cheaper ones that arent treated are often foul smelling and I think its because they have been thawed out during transport .
I dont even have a wrapper from the frozen brine shrimp to check for additives ( I put all frozen fish food into comtainers as soon as I get them home ), but I do know from breeding brine shrimp for Fighting fish babies that it does go off rather quickly.
I think dried worms are the go , less chance of bacteria being fed to birds / fishes unless your growing the worms yourself and know how fresh they are .

[Diane]

6g protein from what I can find on the net

the fishy stuff I have tried with the birds has all been freeze dried. Only the krill and plankton had a strong smell, very fishy.

[finchbreeder]

If your birds start growing scales you know you've overdone the fish food.
I find the fruit fly trap made from a fruit juice bottle hung from the roof works most of the time provided I keep on eye on the fruit/juice in it. And provided I don't get too many weeks like this last one, 40+ 5 days straight and not below 30 till 6PM.
LML

[jusdeb]

scales no but seriously has anyone researched the effect of too much protien on the birds ie. liver , kidney problems?

[Diane]

Im sure someone somewhere would have done some research into this. Interesting thought, will have a mooch later and see what I can find.

My plan was to feed as a treat once in a while, and it would make an alternative to soaked seed or egg or veggies.
The price of these tiny jars would send me broke if they had it more that that Trial jar to see if they would eat it cost $8.50 for 10grams

[jusdeb]

yeah and the price of krill is expected to go through the roof if its available at all , word in the fishy forums is the greenies are putting a stop to harvesting krill as it is putting pressure on whale breeding numbers ...not enough krill to go around . Fair enough I say.
I didnt mind paying for all these dried goodies when I was breeding fighters and fancy guppies , the fry more than covered the cost ....sadly my buyer moved to Victoria and that was that , too much supply not enough demand without the hassle of shipping them .

[jusdeb]

sheesh lost the plot then didnt I....i was going to say that excess high protien treats often led to liver problems in the fish , too much caused constipation problems which of course meant swim bladder problems and often death . I know fish are not birds but they may be open to issues when too much protien is given ....am interested in what you find out Di .

[Diane]

Ive done some looking around about protein
and posted under the Diet and Food section

viewtopic.php?f=42&t=3343

Sorry John we sort of hijacked your topic for a while

[JohnP]

No need to be sorry Diane, it is always interesting to hear everyones thoughts even if they don't relate.