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Re: Trivial thingy ..
Posted: 04 Mar 2012, 08:25
by Myzomela
matcho wrote:Yeah, I thought to myself, "Self, if there are that many here , how many are out there?" The mind boggles. When I saw the one with the price tag of $7k on it I said to myself "Self, time to go home, We have seen enough!"

Was it a hazy headed hazy tailed powderblue cerise-mauve pied pink spotted cock split for olive/cream/chocolate lacewing??
Seriously, who would pay that sort of money for a mutation of a species in which there are so many mutations already?
Some of these mutations are quite beautiful to be fair ( and I'm not normally a big mutation fan) but surely they've had their day.
Still, any bird is only worth what someone is prepared to pay for it so if the demand is there good luck to them!
Re: Trivial thingy ..
Posted: 04 Mar 2012, 23:47
by HARVEY123456789
Here Is the question every breeder going to buy a 7k mutation ring neck should ask them selfs ???
TO BUY A 7K IRN I MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO SELL FOR SAME MONEY OR OFSPRING FOR SAME MONEY???
OR
TO BUY A PAIR OF BLUE AND GOLD MACAWS AND ENJOY THEM AND SELL BABYS FOR EASY4.5K EVERY DAY ?
No brainer to me guys what do use think ?
Re: Trivial thingy ..
Posted: 05 Mar 2012, 06:32
by jusdeb
Knowing my luck the day I spend 7k for a bird is the day they are no longer popular ...
Re: Trivial thingy ..
Posted: 05 Mar 2012, 07:05
by JEWEL
OMG !?!? Seriously ? 7K ?? I have IRN's but i surely wouldnt part with more than $100 for one !! Nice birds but definately NOT worth that much. And what if you bought one, got it home - and it carked it ?? Bird Insurance ??
Re: Trivial thingy ..
Posted: 05 Mar 2012, 07:33
by E Orix
With expensive birds,I have a Rule of Thumb calculation. My rule is to recover your initial outlay you generally need to sell 4 birds(2 pairs) to
recover the cost of the original pair.Providing you breed them within a short time,no later than the next season.This is for expensive rare species
that can drop in value quickly.
As for buying young Macaws well that is not such a great investment if thats what you are trying to do. Macaws will not mature(breeding age) for 5 to 8 years
and alot can happen in that time. I am presuming that you are buying them as an investment not for normal avi enjoyment.
If you invested it at even 5% over 6 years and left it there your $7000 would have grown to $9380
It may sound mercinary about recovering your outlay; but few people can keep paying out thousands of dollar from their savings especially if other family members are not interested. Once you recover your outlay then it doesn't matter if you sell,give away or trade them at a lower price does it.
Big collections are expensive to up keep so if you can aim to break even all should be happy.
Re: Trivial thingy ..
Posted: 05 Mar 2012, 07:52
by Myzomela
Hi Harvey,
E.orix is spot on. The $7k outlay in a free breeding species like Indian Ringnecks may not be such a bad investment if there aren't too many out there in the marketplace already of this type or if it can be used to produce a new mutation AND if the bird in question is a striking mutation. I say this because there are so many mutations out there that having a bird that just looks different but is not striking is likely to quickly fall in popularity and hence price.
With easy to breed species you don't expect to get your $7k back because the birds have held their value- instead you expect to get it back by breeding numbers of birds and selling them for less.
The problem with paying big dollars initially is that the price has a long way to fall. If you wait for the price to drop to a more moderate level then it doesn't matter so much.
Having been through the "boom days" of initially cockatiel and lovebird mutations, and more recently indian ringnecks etc, I think you would be mad to pay big money for any colour mutation these days unless you want it so much that you really have to have it...NOW! Yes, plenty of people made good money breeding mutations in the past, but I believe those days are gone. It's more about the fun of it now if that is where your interest lies.