if there pure how much are they worth ? and if there not pure how much are they worth
???
African Red Headed Finches?
-
HARVEY123456789
- ...............................
- Posts: 451
- Joined: 14 May 2011, 00:48
- Location: CESSNOCK
-
Jayburd
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
- Posts: 5795
- Joined: 08 Dec 2009, 12:08
- Location: Canberra
No idea on pure ones, never seen them advertised. Mostly finches that rare exchange in private, from breeder to a breeder who might be a friend of theirs say or someone else who keeps them.
Hybrids are really worth less than nothing for breeding purposes. As a bird perhaps they might be pretty, but what's the point?
Hybrids are really worth less than nothing for breeding purposes. As a bird perhaps they might be pretty, but what's the point?
Julian
Birdwatcher and finch-keeper.
Feel free to check out my photos here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/lewinsrail/
And my birding antics here: http://worthtwointhebushbirding.blogspot.com.au/
Birdwatcher and finch-keeper.
Feel free to check out my photos here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/lewinsrail/
And my birding antics here: http://worthtwointhebushbirding.blogspot.com.au/
-
HARVEY123456789
- ...............................
- Posts: 451
- Joined: 14 May 2011, 00:48
- Location: CESSNOCK
good point im cursing the person who ever cross breed them god i hate cross breeding makes my blood boli , grrr 
-
E Orix
- ...............................
- Posts: 2740
- Joined: 29 May 2009, 23:30
- Location: Howlong on NSW/Vic Border 30km from Albury
- Location: Howlong NSW
If they are pure they should go to someone working with this specie.
You are wasteing your money having just one pair in my opinion.
They are also better know as Aberdeens which is the Aussie version of the overseas name of Amadines.
If you need more data pm weaver.
You are wasteing your money having just one pair in my opinion.
They are also better know as Aberdeens which is the Aussie version of the overseas name of Amadines.
If you need more data pm weaver.
-
Fincho162
- ...............................
- Posts: 263
- Joined: 11 Jan 2011, 13:38
- Location: Hobart
They are about if u know where to look but once finches become rare there are a lot of "trophy hunters" - as a mate titled them - out there looking for them prepared to throw big $$$ simply to say they "keep" them ..............so many keep quiet about what (and how many they have)
Given the nature of the beasts they are possibly best kept as single pair so at that price I'd say go for it.............personally that is!!
Even old as they may be u only need one fertile egg to get a positive result.
Hybrids? I guess I'm a rare bred here in that I see nought wrong with it if the bird is on its knees...............we have a long list of hybridised finches in our exotic stuff simply as a result of the inability to import new blood.............are we better off with no pure Himalayan greenfinches at all or with the reasonable 'facimile" that gets around today?..............I'm in the latter camp I'm afraid.
No Javan munias/white-bellied munias or what we have today?.................again I'll have the latter again as their fostering abilities are second to none............but pure they are not even close.............."WE" (royal we!!) contributed to their decline so I guess "we" should do all that we can to preserve the bloodlines in whatever way possible not take the easy way out an decree any person who hybridises something ..........and before being howled down I mean that hybridises without the driving force being the almighty $$$$$.
Even the Yellow (Mexican) siskin is a mix of allied species...........think I lie??..............ever bred hens that have the black head pattern of the male as a much paler colouration...........we have and they are dead ringers for the hens of other siskin species not currently in Oz.............or why are siskin hens both green or greyish in their body colour.............
Resynthesis (given that's basically what this type of hybridisation really is in this case...) is a powerful tool used by zoos and some biologists to recreate extinct species...................several deer species been done that way I've read using strict lines and blood links.
Still............dam glad theres nothing that they can cross with a Rufous-back................or is there!!!!!
Just a bit of fun on a Monday.........................no such thing as black & white in this game !!!
Given the nature of the beasts they are possibly best kept as single pair so at that price I'd say go for it.............personally that is!!
Even old as they may be u only need one fertile egg to get a positive result.
Hybrids? I guess I'm a rare bred here in that I see nought wrong with it if the bird is on its knees...............we have a long list of hybridised finches in our exotic stuff simply as a result of the inability to import new blood.............are we better off with no pure Himalayan greenfinches at all or with the reasonable 'facimile" that gets around today?..............I'm in the latter camp I'm afraid.
No Javan munias/white-bellied munias or what we have today?.................again I'll have the latter again as their fostering abilities are second to none............but pure they are not even close.............."WE" (royal we!!) contributed to their decline so I guess "we" should do all that we can to preserve the bloodlines in whatever way possible not take the easy way out an decree any person who hybridises something ..........and before being howled down I mean that hybridises without the driving force being the almighty $$$$$.
Even the Yellow (Mexican) siskin is a mix of allied species...........think I lie??..............ever bred hens that have the black head pattern of the male as a much paler colouration...........we have and they are dead ringers for the hens of other siskin species not currently in Oz.............or why are siskin hens both green or greyish in their body colour.............
Resynthesis (given that's basically what this type of hybridisation really is in this case...) is a powerful tool used by zoos and some biologists to recreate extinct species...................several deer species been done that way I've read using strict lines and blood links.
Still............dam glad theres nothing that they can cross with a Rufous-back................or is there!!!!!
Just a bit of fun on a Monday.........................no such thing as black & white in this game !!!
-
HARVEY123456789
- ...............................
- Posts: 451
- Joined: 14 May 2011, 00:48
- Location: CESSNOCK
im not shore about them the photo i got looks just like there cutthroats ill give it a miss ,, not my cuppa tea lol i just want finches lol not the trouble comign with these hehehehe fincho can u pm me please. . thanks bud .
-
Weaver
- ...............................
- Posts: 153
- Joined: 13 Apr 2010, 10:30
- Location: Sydney
I have a few birds that I believe are pure, They have not bred for me in the last couple of years and I have no idea of their age. All of the birds that I have seen in other collections are hybrids, some are very close to the originals I guess.
I agree with Fincho; if we are to have a bird that looks like an Aberdeen in our aviaries in the future we probably need to go down the hybrid path.
I wont do that though, it just "goes against the grain" with me.
If anyone out there has pure bloods, I am happy to donate these birds to the cause.
Please dont reply simply because you fancy having them.
Fincho, just to cheer you up, local breeder just bought two 'Ruffous Backs' and they are Hybrid (maybe bengo), still quite small but dark allover with no brown.
I agree with Fincho; if we are to have a bird that looks like an Aberdeen in our aviaries in the future we probably need to go down the hybrid path.
I wont do that though, it just "goes against the grain" with me.
If anyone out there has pure bloods, I am happy to donate these birds to the cause.
Please dont reply simply because you fancy having them.
Fincho, just to cheer you up, local breeder just bought two 'Ruffous Backs' and they are Hybrid (maybe bengo), still quite small but dark allover with no brown.
