Aussie Finch Forum

Hi Guys,don't be surprised if you breed some black heads out of those birds,but they will have yellow tipped bills.It's very hard to keep those visual splits out of yellow heads. Cheers Craig

Ok, thanks will they always have yellow tipped bills or just when they are breeding? My hens entire beak is practically black right now.

Jay, Cocks always,hens out of season but you can still usually tell when they turn black.I am talking about any black heads produced out of yellow parents.Cheers Craig

thanks!

Spanna
Would you explain your post,my old brain has had a hard time trying to work out what you are getting to.

Julian
if you decide to concentrate on Yellow Headed Normal Gouldians there are 2 pair of PURE yellows here
for your breeding program.They are not related to Bobs birds at all.

Jayburd, what you are doing sounds really awesome! I hope you accomplish what you are setting out to do. It would be a shame to lose all the pure normals to being splits.

Wow, thanks Orix!!!!!
How did you manage to get pure yellows?
Blujay, Thanks I agree it would be a terrible shame, zebras are going the same way, and budgies, and canaries I think are well beyond saving. To lose another, especially one as stunning as a normal Gould, would be awful.
I used to think gouldians were gaudy, aggressive little buggers but have to say my interpretation has certainly changed!!!

E Orix wrote:Spanna
Would you explain your post,my old brain has had a hard time trying to work out what you are getting to.

Even I have trouble understanding some of the rubbish about mutations E Orix, and struggle understanding some rubbish I write too

I started with 2 pair visual normal goulds, 1 pair had 6 young, then mysteriously died (suspect night frights). The other pair did nothing at all and have since been sold to a friend as her first finches. Of the 6 young, I kept 4; 1 YH cock, one BH yellow tipped beak (YTB) hen, one YH hen and one YHWB hen. I am assuming therefore, that the cock is possible split BH, and all the young are possible split WB.

I have obtained a normal, unrelated pair from Woody from the forum here that should be pure normals, who are breeding separately to all these possible splits.

I have put the YH hen (possible split WB) and the BH YTB hen to normal RH cocks, who are themselves possible split BH. My reasons for doing so is to simply build up numbers of gouldians that have few, if any, mutations, so I have a good selection of breeding stock for next season. At the end of this season, I should have normal YH, RH split to YH (RH/yh), and RH split to YH and BH (RH/yh/bh). I doubt any WB young will show up this season, hence the next season, the nicest, cleanest birds (nice bright yellow faces on hens especially) will be paired with BHWBGB birds to check for any surprises. This way, I will know which birds will be split to what, which birds will be "pure" and these pure ones shall join my other hopefully pure birds in producing non-mutant goulds with only yellow heads.

Clear as mud??

Well it made sense to me and that's something!!
Sounds like a good plan

Sounds good. Accept as a bit of a geneticist you must know that recessive genes do not have to turn up anytime in under 10 years. Though they should show up on a 50/50 or 25/75 depending on the type basis. But try flipping a coin and tell me that you get heads and tails evenly like you should. Good luck what you are trying to achieve is a good thing, just playing devils advocate.
LML