new painted unwell

[vettepilot_6]

Probably other underlying factors...The Baycox will come in handy if you get a week of rain..

[finchbreeder]

Havent had coxi in my avairys, but have helped deal with a bad case of it up here in the past. It is the hot wet weather that does it. Yes earth floors do seem to contribute. But it starts slow and goes through like a dose of salts. Young and to a lesser extent old birds seem worse effected, and hens who have just finished breeding and their mates to a lesser extent. The mature birds that you intend to breed for the first time next year (e.g. last seasons late chicks) and who have been taking it easy and who are in prime condition stand the best chance of not surcumming.
LML

[Redwing]

I bought some Baycox yesterday, but unsure whether to treat the other new young bird and/or the the others in my aviary. If I have any others who look even slightly unwell or die I will try and get an autopsy or have them seen by a vet. Feel frustrated not knowing what the problem is to know the best course of action.
The ones you've seen finchbreeder up there, how did they present?
Vettepilot-if we had a week of rain we'd be dancing in the streets!

[Craig52]

I bought some Baycox yesterday, but unsure whether to treat the other new young bird and/or the the others in my aviary. If I have any others who look even slightly unwell or die I will try and get an autopsy or have them seen by a vet. Feel frustrated not knowing what the problem is to know the best course of action.
The ones you've seen finchbreeder up there, how did they present?
Vettepilot-if we had a week of rain we'd be dancing in the streets!

Redwing,the problem you have is that most birds carry coccidia and it doesn't present it's self until the bird becomes stressed and the immune system is at its lowest.
Imo i would treat all your birds with Baycox and if given in the correct dosage (3ml per Ltr of water)It wont hurt them and will give you peace of mind. Craig

[finchbreeder]

Unfortunately, once the symptoms show the odds of survival are pretty slim. This was a budgie stud not finches. But clagged vents is the most obvious symptom, and a tendancy to go to ground and fly poorly. Preventative treatment of all remaining birds. Removal from the avairy, the floor is then cleared of soil to 15cm/6inchs, then burnt with a blowtorch. New soil put in and the birds returned. But it can reoccur if the same conditions do. Have dealt with 2 bad years in the last 8.
LML

[Redwing]

That sounds terrible, and a lot of hard work to treat the aviary. I'm going to do the Baycox treatment but will wait till next week when it's cooler. How many days do I need to treat for?

[Craig52]

I usually treat for three days,fresh every day.Remove fresh water from aviary very late in the afternoon/evening and replace with medicated water early next morning,i usually replace with fresh water late afternoon till the next morning to avoid over doseing as some birds drink more than others.Don't feed seeding grasses or sprouted seed and don't medicate if rain is predicted. Cheers Craig

[Craig52]

Wow FB,that sounds like abit of over kill removing all that soil to a depth of 150mm,but i suppose the budgies were very over crowded and they do poop alot.Your not getting confused with psittacosis are you? which is a major disease with parrots and to a lesser extent finches.
To treat an aviary for coccidia/psittacosis,i spray the floors with VirconS at one heaped teaspoon to a litre of water with a 10 litre garden pressure sprayer.One spray followed up by a second spray a few days later and at the same time medicate my birds for coccidia with Baycox. Cheers Craig

[finchbreeder]

It was Coxi. Budgies in question are a show stud, that has been established and recorded for over 40 years. Rare budgie breeding specialist. Overkill = peace of mind. Fairly heavily stocked avairys, but not to the point of crowding.
LML

[Myzomela]

Hi Craig

Unfortunately, the Virkon S won't kill the coccidia or any other parasite. It is more useful for viruses, bacteria and fungi.

However, no disinfectant will work in soil. The only way to sterilize soil is to use a blow torch !!! Overkill- maybe. Otherwise, FBs suggestion of removing the top few inches of soil is one way to decrease the environmental load of parasite eggs including coccidia.

Direct sunlight on the floor & dry conditions also help stop the parasites from becoming infective or from surviving for long in the soil.

I doubt that coccidia from budgies would affect finches, since coccidia tend to be host-specific.