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Re: What The!! GRRRRR
Posted: 15 Mar 2016, 14:09
by vettepilot_6
POLAR GOULDIANS wrote:Hi VP,
One of your photos shows more than 2 birds in the aviary?
Is there any chance of these being fathered by another male?
These are by themselves in with Nuns and RFPF....
Re: What The!! GRRRRR
Posted: 15 Mar 2016, 17:32
by iaos
Did they come from me?
As far as I know my stock and my source stocks are still mutant free.
Very frustrating for you!
Re: What The!! GRRRRR
Posted: 15 Mar 2016, 17:49
by vettepilot_6
iaos wrote:Did they come from me?
As far as I know my stock and my source stocks are still mutant free.
Very frustrating for you!
Ian original parents of these birds (2 seasons ago) were yours, Don Crawfords and another breeder from here...they were all in together and I chose the best young for this season...so I have no idea from those pairings...so I will be getting rid of everything in the way of Gouldians and starting again.... or I may just forget Gouldians and Stars altogether...
Re: What The!! GRRRRR
Posted: 15 Mar 2016, 22:18
by finchbreeder
It may be the lighting, but Dads feet look white, this is a clasic sign that budgie breeders use to find recessive pied genes. So if it is not the pic and Dad is white footed
LML
Re: What The!! GRRRRR
Posted: 15 Mar 2016, 22:19
by BrettB
they were all in together and I chose the best young for this season...so I have no idea from those pairings...so I will be getting rid of everything
Unfortunately, if your aim is a colony of mutation free birds, this is the only option.
It is the curse of recessive genes, they can remain hidden for generations.
So very frustrating
Brett
Re: What The!! GRRRRR
Posted: 15 Mar 2016, 22:32
by Blue Cuban
Wow... Exciting.
Can you post a clear picture of the young birds face clearly displaying its nodules, this will help a lot.
Rich.
Re: What The!! GRRRRR
Posted: 16 Mar 2016, 05:29
by vettepilot_6
Blue Cuban wrote:Wow... Exciting.
Can you post a clear picture of the young birds face clearly displaying its nodules, this will help a lot.
Rich.
Not fo me it isn't....but as I'm on nightshift away for next 5 days will do so when I back..

Re: What The!! GRRRRR
Posted: 16 Mar 2016, 08:17
by Tiaris
Recessive dilutes are another possibility.
Re: What The!! GRRRRR
Posted: 16 Mar 2016, 08:51
by Craig52
I agree with Tiaris, recessive dilutes. If they were AY they would look pied in the nest imo. Craig
Re: What The!! GRRRRR
Posted: 16 Mar 2016, 19:56
by Blue Cuban
Craig52 wrote:I agree with Tiaris, recessive dilutes. If they were AY they would look pied in the nest imo. Craig
All AY's I've bred have never shown pied markings but Craig is correct And this strain does exist.
One thing I've learnt is the nodules very rarely lie explaining certain mutations and a good head shot of this bird could definitely eliminate possible suggestions.
Rich.