Aussie Finch Forum

garyh wrote:Hi Rich,so is what your saying,a yellow hen split to blue is a pastel and a green back hen split to blue is also a pastel,garyh

G'day Garry.
This is steering away from the actual topic so I expect the "A" team to intervene at some point..

A green hen split to blue will always be a green hen split to blue.
But if someone was to say "hey I have some pastel hens split to blue for sale if interested" I would clearly understand that these birds are yellow hens split to blue.

Hi Rich,had to ask the question,these terms are not used in Vic,garyh

garyh wrote:Hi Rich,had to ask the question,these terms are not used in Vic,garyh

No dramas, these terms are rarely used in WA as well but when used I know what they are on about.

My understanding is ;
SF pastel green cock - SF cock coming from yellow and green back parents (washed out color on the back)
SF pastel cock - SF yellow back ( bluey grey around head and bib)
DF pastel cock - DF Yellow back ( white around head and under the bib, Brighter yellow on the back)
SF pastel blue cock - washed out bluey grey back, grey around the head and bib (carrying genes for green, blue, yellow on the back color)
DF pastel blue - commonly known as Silver cock

Hens
Hens are all SF, I have also read blue hens and silver hens are DF, so still unsure there. I don't have the problem of using the words silver or DF pastel as all of us breeding these birds know what the next person is referring to.

Can't get DF hens at all.

Tiaris wrote:Can't get DF hens at all.

I agree.
But I have heard the same term being used as well but I interpreted it as a count of factors in a certain mutation kinda like a heavy pied and a light pied being SF/DF but I have never ready been able define it probably because it's not true.

Another take on it is it takes 2 blue factors to produce a blue bird and all splits are SF.... Just a thought..!
I have definitely herd this terminology used with our over seas friends.

That's true, but confusing when comparing an autosomal recessive mutation (blue) to a sex-linked dominant one (yellow-backed).

Tiaris wrote:That's true, but confusing when comparing an autosomal recessive mutation (blue) to a sex-linked dominant one (yellow-backed).

Indeed it is..