Aussie Finch Forum

You know what just the constant hand rearing that I see going on in the parrot world distresses me (even without the selling unweaned) it amazes me that soo many people now pull full nests to handrear, meaning the parents start laying straight away again (and don't get the same time between clutches) and then you see people breeding these handraised birds and the birds are actually incapable of raising a clutch and so the cycle continues..... I don't mind people taking half a clutch and leaving the rest for the parents to raise but when you hear about birds triple clutching just because they have had reduced time with the young in the nest it seems really cruel on the females IMO!

More fool the people that pay the money, Geez dont we have enough good looking bird without doing that.

Mine triple clutch anyway and thats with me taking 1 or 2 babies to hand rear . They would probably go 4 or 5 clutches if I didnt remove nest boxes .

I hate to say it but NSW seems to be the home of hybridising in Australia.
All the lorikeet mutations which arose in either the rainbow or scaly-breasted lorikeets have been crossed to the other species, and also into the red-collared and musks. People are still trying to get it into the varieds. And these have all been well documented in a book dealing with these species.

Crossing of the rosella species to transfer colour mutations is also rife, especially between eastern, pale-headeds and crimsons.

Other clowns are even crossing mutation hoodeds with golden-shouldereds- just what a threatened species needs!

When the state licensing list of species includes hybrids then it suggests that the authorities have accepted the situation, and don't seem to really care about changing.

Contrast this to Victoria when years ago a friend of mine had hybrid king x crimson-wing parrots as described in John Gould's book- the cocks of this cross are stunning. He was forbidden by National Parks and Wildlife from breeding any more of these birds in no uncertain terms.

I can understand the curiosity side of things as Jayburd has mentioned, but can't understand people who think they are going to make a buck out of it. The days of new mutations being worth big bucks are almost gone, so why bother going along this path which will leave a trail of first and second cross hybrids which may be used by those who don't know in their breeding programs?

It seems to be the younger bird keepers chasing the $$$$ by crossing birds ...great future for aviculture NOT .

Another email today from dept of blah blah requesting the link to the ad ......

HELP we need the actual link and I havent had time to sift through all the ads ...if anyone has please can I have it .
Ive got the people that can make a difference on board now so we need to follow through .

Is this the one?

http://www.petlink.com.au/Classifieds/sale/2122536.html

Good one Sam

jusdeb wrote:It seems to be the younger bird keepers chasing the $$$$ by crossing birds ...great future for aviculture NOT .

And did you look at his e-mail address? Looks like he works for a bank. Typical... ( no offence meant to any forum members who work for the banks )

on a bird pg on fb a victorian man posted this:

"i have a galah x corella and a sulfher x corella both these birds are paired up with major mitchells now so they will be 3 way crosses , the hybrids are usually around $500 to $1000 ea"

when some people questioned him he then replied:

"its been going on for thousands of years in the wild how do you think species get started ? if you breed birds of the same genus together they are fertile its when you cross birds of different genus that they are sterile , same as donkey x horse different genus sterile ( mule ) they make great pets and are great coloured birds and for under $1000 who wouldnt want one ?"

hmmm......

misso