My european birds

[Jayburd]

now the real reason behind E Orix's Question: do you have any?

[Nick Nolan]

I wish,they are little stunners,though i have never heard of them being kept in aviculture,well not in this part of the world anyway

[Jayburd]

there's always a first time

[casehulsebosch]

Jayburd. There is always a first time, but there is a big BUT. We are talking Europe here and in order to keep, and than possibly breed, with any non introduced species you can only keep birds that are closed banded. That is a major hurdle as it appears there are very few keepers, let alone breeders, of the Regulus Regulus in Europe. So trying to get hold of some birds is the first Major ( with a capital M) hurdle. From what I know there are a few breeders is this species in Europe and they appear to be mainly in the UK. Cheers, Case

[Nick Nolan]

Case is right...The authorities are coming down very hard on native bird keepers over here,particularly in England,its not that bad yet, here in Ireland.Any keeper of native birds in the UK (ie Engaland,wales,scotland and northern ireland)must have a licence to do so.We dont need to have one in the Republic of ireland,thank god.So a lot of the english keepers in particular are having to jump through hoops to prove their birds are aviary bred,with quite a few of them finding themselves in court and facing hefty fines,and their homes and birdsheds are being raided regularly.There is one man in particular,im not gonna mention his name,but he seems to be on a mission to prosecute native bird keepers,but the sickening thing about it is,he was a well known native bird keeper himself,but now works for the authorities,a traitor if ever there was one

[arthur]

Many of our Australian states faced similar problems when licensing was brought in in the early '70's, and bullying/ victimization was rife

But things seem to have settled down (any comments??)

Native softbill laws that vary from state to state remain a contentious issue for those who live in the less liberal jurisdictions . . . And the frustration of not being able to overturn the huge inequities that exist is . . to say the least


AND yes the 'poacher' turned 'gamekeeper' syndrome seems to be alive and well . . no matter where you live

The 'law' and 'justice' often have only a small area of common ground


OK I'm off the soapbox

[Diane]

AND yes the 'poacher' turned 'gamekeeper' syndrome seems to be alive and well

I think that is used by all authorities in all aspects, they use the "poacher" as they know all the kinks in the system.
Plenty of news articles where the hacker has been approached by the company hacked to build/protect their systems.

[finchbreeder]

The best security man was a teenage hacker. Just ask the internet security lecturer at your local uni. - Going back to the subject. - Love the look of those Hybrids. And while in general I do not condone Hybrid breeding, the Goldfinch is certainly capable of producing some beatiful looking and wonderful singing Hybrids. Thanks for the pics and feel free to keep trying to out do each other with the best pic.
LML