Pete,
How much will it cost me to to put bird netting all around a 6m aviary?
Thanks Nathan
Female cordon blue getting killed by a butcher bird.
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If it is the 4th time then the fault does not lay with the butcher bird.Nathan Morleyy wrote:Deb,
This is the 4th time a Butcher bird has killed one of my finches.
The blame for this happening more than once lies squarely on the person who continues to put finches in a position that the butcher bird believes to be a dining table.
Put bluntly Nathan, it is YOUR fault. You need to think more carefully about what you are providing, it obviously is not a safe place.
Do as others have suggested, use bird netting, double wire your aviaries, make sure no perches/plants are adjacent to the wire.
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nathan, you are up to your old tricks again.
you are given an answer and a solution, yet you continue to trawl for one that suits you. as has been repeatedly said to you, there is a lot you can learn from this forum, but until you decide to listen - i am starting to wonder if this is the right place for you.
you are given an answer and a solution, yet you continue to trawl for one that suits you. as has been repeatedly said to you, there is a lot you can learn from this forum, but until you decide to listen - i am starting to wonder if this is the right place for you.
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Nathan Morleyy
Mick,
How much will re wiring cost me?.
And do I need the heavy of light bird netting?.
Thanks Nathan
How much will re wiring cost me?.
And do I need the heavy of light bird netting?.
Thanks Nathan
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You are the only person who knows what it will cost to make your aviaries safe.
Nobody else knows the measurements. Once you know the measurements go the the suppliers of the product you need and get prices.
Then fix it. I don't want to read about a butcher bird getting another of your finches.
This type of stuff should only happen once at most twice, not 4 times.
A poor tradesman blames his tools, a dumb salesman blames his products.
Dumb birdkeepers blame everyone and everything else before they open their eyes & realise oh chit it's been my fault.
At the moment Nathan all I can do is point you in the direction of your main problem.
To help you see the problem all I can advise is that you stand in front of a mirror and have a close look at the person staring back at you.
Nobody else knows the measurements. Once you know the measurements go the the suppliers of the product you need and get prices.
Then fix it. I don't want to read about a butcher bird getting another of your finches.
This type of stuff should only happen once at most twice, not 4 times.
A poor tradesman blames his tools, a dumb salesman blames his products.
Dumb birdkeepers blame everyone and everything else before they open their eyes & realise oh chit it's been my fault.
At the moment Nathan all I can do is point you in the direction of your main problem.
To help you see the problem all I can advise is that you stand in front of a mirror and have a close look at the person staring back at you.
Mick.
Finch addict and rodent hater.
Finch addict and rodent hater.
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For those that don`t know what a Butcherbird looks like here is a Photo of one checking out my birds
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Nathan,
Pretty unlucky to lose 4 birds to butchers. I've lost a few over the years, but they've always been young ones that've recently fledged. The older finches seem to know and they remain perfectly still until the butcher bird gives up. On the other hand young fledglings just fly around stupidly until one lands on the wire and gets decapitated. Apparently, butcher birds will hunt in packs (like wolves), one will chase to wear down the prey and the other will hide and then head in to make the kill. Pretty clever!
From memory your aviaries are the zincalume shed with a wire front type. If this is correct then the mesh is probably pop-riveted to the outside (front) of the frame. Your best bet is to attach mesh (I'd use small tek screws) to the inside (back) of the frame so you've got a 25mm gap between the two layers of mesh. You'll only need light gauge. And for your new aviary, do this before you put it up.
Pretty unlucky to lose 4 birds to butchers. I've lost a few over the years, but they've always been young ones that've recently fledged. The older finches seem to know and they remain perfectly still until the butcher bird gives up. On the other hand young fledglings just fly around stupidly until one lands on the wire and gets decapitated. Apparently, butcher birds will hunt in packs (like wolves), one will chase to wear down the prey and the other will hide and then head in to make the kill. Pretty clever!
From memory your aviaries are the zincalume shed with a wire front type. If this is correct then the mesh is probably pop-riveted to the outside (front) of the frame. Your best bet is to attach mesh (I'd use small tek screws) to the inside (back) of the frame so you've got a 25mm gap between the two layers of mesh. You'll only need light gauge. And for your new aviary, do this before you put it up.
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wow, they are nasty looking guys.
would those beaks be able to penetrate mouseproof wire? you would think that at the very least it would make a kill much less likely.
the most i've had problems with is wattlebirds attacking my quarantined birdcage when i put them out on the backyard table to catch some sun. never had them actually do more than swoop the front of the cage. this is possibly just a territorial thing (as you all probably know,wattlebirds are seriously territorial) as the centre of my yard is a very popular small flowering gum and the table sits right beneath.
the wattlebirds interestingly never attack the aviary though. which is hardly any further away.
would those beaks be able to penetrate mouseproof wire? you would think that at the very least it would make a kill much less likely.
the most i've had problems with is wattlebirds attacking my quarantined birdcage when i put them out on the backyard table to catch some sun. never had them actually do more than swoop the front of the cage. this is possibly just a territorial thing (as you all probably know,wattlebirds are seriously territorial) as the centre of my yard is a very popular small flowering gum and the table sits right beneath.
the wattlebirds interestingly never attack the aviary though. which is hardly any further away.
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Nathan i use clear plastic like they make for bistro blinds bit pricey but it cuts the draughts and i attach it with velcro. u can buy from bunnings go and have a look if you want a alternative to wire. Agree with what mick said to you just takle hold of the reighns get out there a price things measure up and think about what you want and need.