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gouldianpaul
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Hi Jayburd,

It's a shame the Committee don't share your wisdom and common sense approach.

cheers
Paul
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SamDavis
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The Canberra sale jayburd refers to is in a school hall. I'm sure there'd be a school in a suitable location who'd love to host a bird sale and the hall hire would be much more reasonable. It's possible they'd get involved themselves in terms of supplying food as a money raiser for the school.
I have many school contacts in NSW but unfortunately none in Melbourne but there may well be a Melbourne chalky who may be able to assist with contacts.
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One of the best sales held in NZ is in a College Gym which is bigger than a hall and cheaper than hall
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I wonder if the success of sales around the fringes of Melbourne is a sign of the movement of the major bird keepers/breeders away from the centre of Melbourne? People with space in their backyard for an aviary or 3 are more likely to patronise the sales than Mr or Mrs Inner-city who is happy to pay $70 for a whisling canary or $12 for a grey zeb from The Pet's Slum in the local shopping centre.

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Hi MadOzzie,

I cannot agree with your last point. There are plenty of people who live in the Melbourne metro area who breed plenty of birds....many on this forum. Many breeders travel far and wide to get to the Mornington, Ballarat and Geelong sale, but they don't bother with the Melbourne sale. We are all happy to travel a few hours to attend a show that is well organised with reasonable numbers.

Mr Tino and I could investigate other venues for the Melbourne sale, but personally I am not going to bother....as I keep stating the AAS Committee dos NOT listen to their members and they are content holding an inferior event at the La Trobe site simply because it requires minimal effort on their behalf...we are not here to do the job of the Committee....the only way this will be resolved is to replace the Committee with one that listens to their members.

No more posts from me on this topic.....I've had enough.

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Paul
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Hi Paul, Mr Tino & others,

I have been reading with some dismay the lack of progress you guys have been allowed to make & the apparent disinterest of the committee of the ASA to do anything about the Melbourne birdsale.

I have just got off the phone with one of the commitee members who I know & it basically comes down to the fact that they- the committee- are not prepared to do any more work themselves.

When I broached the idea of forming a Bird Sale subcommittee, this committee member said that he would have no problems supporting this idea to investigate a better venue and better time to hold the sale.

In other words if you are keen enough to do the legwork or part of it then they would be happy to change. So long as you do the work. If we could get several other Melbourne members to agree to help then you can present this to them.

Perhaps this could be done through fellow ASA members who are also on AFF.

Would you be happy to undertake this responsibility? Are there others who would be prepared to help?

The costs of venue hire could be offset by sponsorship/advertising deals with bird-related businesses.

So does anyone have the time, energy and inclination?
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If what you were told is correct Myzomela and the Committee hasn't got the time then that is disappointing.
I wonder how they would have coped when there were 7500+ members.
Also their lack of foresight is disturbing,if they are stressed ,over worked etc etc then the obvious thing to do is form subcommittees
These subcommittees won't dent their ego's as they don't make final decisions they report back only.
As far as I can see its a win win situation.
Maybe I have been away from the Society too long.It seems being a member of a branch is more enjoyable and fruitful than being a member
of the main body and that is a real shame.
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Hi all,i've been following this thread for a while now,so here is some of my thoughts.From what i can remember there are thirteen branches,some have gone their own way or split from the ASA for various reasons.Melbourne is the so called head office,where we pay our subsciptions to receive the journal and to cover our membership.
20-30 years ago,Melbourne did have large bird sales but times have changed,the branches were small country towns and most of these people came to the Melbourne sale to sell their birds.But now these small country towns are large country cities,who run their own large sales and the attraction to the Melbourne sale has been lost.
The venues for these large country sales are huge,Melbourne can't compete with these as car parking,venues and every thing that goes with a bird sale is harder to arrange in a major city without major exspence.
90% of members live in country Victoria,interstate or overseas that leaves 10% in Melbourne CBD,so why should they worry about having a huge bird sale when the country branches can do it all for them and each branch profits from their sale,Melbourne doesn't need to make any profit as i know most of them are eager to get to the country sales to sell their birds and to catch up with mates/friends that they may only see once a year.
I live in Geelong,And yes we have a huge sale and yes it is getting a bit sqeezy so it want be long before we need a new venue,i am an hour or two from most country sales and i enjoy the trips i have to them and i know quite a few Melbournites that look forward to country bird sales.
To put it in a nut shell,the large country city bird sales have out grown the Melbourne sales and they know it. Now you can get the flame thrower out :shock: Craig
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E Orix
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I see your point but it seems that the tail is wagging the dog.
I am at a real disadvantage as I can't attend meetings because of my location to gather my own opinion.
But from my gleaning of what has been said here and else where,the sale situation is not the only problem
of AA. While the branches are getting stronger and seem to be drifting away to do their own thing they should stop and look at
the whole picture.Should the head die so will the body, maybe not for awhile but without coordination fragmentation will occur.
If the senior body can't get it back to some form of cohesion then the branches need to.
Not just the sale but the whole profile.
This will happen as it has before,branches have grown strong then nearly implode because of internal changes,but in the past the
head was strong and could step in and sort it out.I know this to be true as I was involved personally in the past.
Victoria needs a strong AA not a number of branches doing their own thing.
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Sorry David,i have to disagree,us country folk are no longer regarded as the country bums and need the help from the city slickers,so our clubs are not going to die if Melbourne continues the way they are going and why should we stop and have a look back at them if they can't help themselves.
I'm sorry,but gone are the days of Melbourne being the governer of so many branches and the ones that have broken away are thriveing,not imploding.
I would like to know if there are any other main avicultural bodies governing a whole heap branches in Australia,i'm pretty sure there's not.
I know you were once president of ASA as i was also there when you were but have times changed since then,that was in the early days when us country folk would travel to Melbourne meetings and get back home well after midnight,now with our local branch club meetings being so large,we can be home before eleven.
Any how,lets agree to disagree,as time will tell. :thumbup: Cheers Craig
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