coccidosias ?? or however you spell it .

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Still not over the cocci incident of earlier in the year and now its raining heavy again which has me worried .

What is my best plan of action to prevent another outbreak > I have Coccivet (plenty of) and a small amount of Baycox for emergencies .

Aviaries are mostly dry but have wet areas as the rain has been wind driven . All but one aviary has had nest boxes removed so no young to worry about .

The aviary that was affected has been totally stripped and Virkoned ( soaked twice ) .

Any tips please as I dont ever want to see a bird sick from that again .
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ACV before dosing is supposed to help, but apart from that you've got the others ready, not much else I can add.
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Ok ACV I have and it wont hurt to add it to the water :thumbup:
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Deb,

My way of thinking is that when the ground is wet/damp and the birds forage in it the parasite has a chance to spread through your birds.The parasite is carried because the eggs are carried by droppings from an infected bird. In other words if one of the birds has the parasite it is spread through its droppings. A dose of Baycox on a regular basis will help prevent/minimise the effects. If you keep up the treatment you shouldn't have too many problems. Dry cages are a definite bonus, but in all reality how can this be resolved? No bathing areas, no open flights, no natural areas, no sandy/dirt floors, no sh.ting birds? As I said, wet floors are natural, if your health/worming regime is regular you shouldn't have too many worries. After all, if I had to worm after each rain event here in Sydney my birds would be on a permanent Baycox drip.
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Very true Matcho . Just doing the panic thing as you do :roll:
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The eucy mulch is drying really well so Ive decided to replace the other aviaries with it over the next few days ..
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I disagree a little with Matcho on this one.

Wet floors are only natural in the environment in which we keep the birds, not necessarily where the birds have originated from. There is nothing natural about keeping birds in aviaries. They are confined in space, food choice, mate choice etc etc. I understand that part of the joy of keeping birds is to see them fly in living shrubs/grasses with exposure to sunlight, access to earth/sand floors etc etc- it's nicer to look at and more interesting for the birds. But with this comes the inherent risks associated with this type of enclosure. There are 3 aspects to dealing with any disease. Firstly, stop the disease getting into the aviary in the first place eg quarantining and aviary design. Secondly, remove the factors that make it favourable for the disease to survive, persist and replicate. Finally we can routinely medicate. In reality we should do all of these things but I think relying on medications alone is a false economy because eventually medications will fail if the environmental conditions favour the disease causing organism.

So what can we do? If you like large planted aviaries, then try to make sure that you have excellent drainage so that the floor dries quickly after rain. Use the sun to help dry your floors by removing unnecessary low vegetation eg cut low branches to allow better air flow & sunlight access to the base of shrubs. Place water dishes within plastic tubs or over drainage grates to catch spilled water. The same for spilt seed-the more the birds forage on the ground, the more exposure they will get to most pathogens. Decrease bird population densities to decrease pathogen build up and decrease stress between birds.

But don't stress Deb. Disease is a part of life when dealing with any living organism. It's really about keeping your birds as fit as possible through good husbandry- this is the most important aspect. The judicious use of preventative medications can then be of great assistance.
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Thanks Myzo ..good advice .
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Myzo I reckon that your 100% right with this. Unlike wild birds our birds can't move from area to area which will make disease control alot easier, where ours are constantly stuck in the same place for most of there lives, until now never thought of it like that. Your definitely opened my eyes now to see what needs to be changed to make my environment alot more disease controllable ,thanks myzo. As for wet/damp flooring would adding salt to absorb moisture be a helping hand as it can be swept up easily- just a thought.
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