Aussie Finch Forum

Today picked up some CYDECT5D from a local pet store to worm our birds and for Air Sack Mites.
Looks like the pet store have made up lots of bottles with about 300mls in them.

The question i have is,

the bottle reads Oral Tonic for Birds/rabbits/Rats...1m/5kg.

So how much CYDECT5D per litre of water,the fella in the pet store was a new and not sure.?????????????


Harv tells me that 5kg=5 litres..???????


Brett

i give my birds 5ml to 1litre of water

Hi Brett,

What is the concentration of the active drug- moxidectin-in this product? It should be written on the label.
It is of questionable legality to break these products down into smaller amounts and then to on-sell them in a commercial setting anyway, but that's another issue. But if they don't label the bottles correctly, then that is poor form!
Once we know the concentration of moxidectin, we can advise a proper in-water dose rate.

Brett wrote:Harv tells me that 5kg=5 litres..???????

Yes and no. In this case- no! ie the dose rate of 1ml/5kg is 1 ml drug to 5kg bodyweight of animal. This is a direct dose rate.
The in-water dose rate is INDIRECT because it is calculated on how much water the bird is expected to drink. You can't just interchange 1ml/5Kg with 1ml per 5L of water, because birds never drink their bodyweight in water.

If the concentration of moxidectin in this product is 2g/L, then the dose rate of 5mls/L drinking water suggested by Karl is correct.

If I've managed to confuse you then please ask again and I will try to answer your question more clearly

Good on the retailer to break it down and sell it in smaller quantities for hobbyists.

Here in NZ it is sold in 10.5 litres containers only. At 5 ml per litre of water - my dose rate also - it lasts the average birdkeeper a few days. At least I have a few hundred sheep to make sure it is used up before the expiry date.

cheers, case

well jus got off the phone from the pet store that i got the CYDECT5D..from the owner said,,,,

1.The active drug in the bottle is Moxidectin
2.On the bottle he used to make up a supply it said sheep strenght at.... 1g per litre.?????????????????????????????????
3 Yes it was a plain bottle he sold it in with no directions on it,but in saying that he is only trying to look after us little bird lovers.

What a load of S#*T this is to get a med to treat Ais Sack Mites ect


Brett

Brett wrote:What a load of S#*T this is to get a med to treat Ais Sack Mites ect

Agreed. But this is exactly the problem when people who don't know what they're doing start messing around trying to sell drugs without proper directions.

You are certainly safe to use it at 5ml/L drinking water, but if you don't get the desired results you can increase it to 10 ml/L.

Alternatively, if you just have one or two birds which are badly affected you can use a drop direct to the beak.

Thank You Mate.

Brett

Is this same http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/125ml-CYDECT ... 1c2530fa9a" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ?

I did see that..
Yes it looks and reads the same,but i only payed $24.00.

I used it yesterday with no problems.

Bretto

@Brett, where did you get yours? Would be interested. Tried to get Scatt from vet, but he had none, he became irate when he found he could not get it, said he doesn't need script, so he will give us a call tomorrow, if he can obtain it. Thanks