Hi to all
I would like to know how does this mutation is caried.
Is it a combination between mutations or a caried one and if so can males and hens be split to yellow??
Thanks
Best regards
Gustavo
Yellow Starfinches
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So it is impossible for a bird be split to yellow correct??Tiaris wrote:Yellow bodied Stars are a combination of the Fawn (autosomal recessive) and Cinnamon (sex-linked recessive) mutations.
And if we cross a yellow X yellow, what is going to born??
And what do we get with, pfor exemple cinnamon X yellow or fawn os classic X yellow??
Tiaris, is it possible to post a picture of a fawn star finch and a cinnamon star finch??
It is because we may have diferent denominations in Portugal...
Regards
Gustavo
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It is possible to get normal phenotype Stars split to fawn & cinnamon in males & split to only fawn in females.
The only "split yellow" birds I use for breeding YBs from are Fawn split cinnamon cocks which I pair to Yellow-bodied Hens (& sometimes to fawn hens).
I also sometimes pair a YB cock to a fawn hen.
You cannot get hens split to the cinnamon mutation as it is sex-linked recessive.
I think in Europe the bird we call cinnamon is called an isabel. Our fawns may be called dilute in Europe (not sure on this one though).
The only "split yellow" birds I use for breeding YBs from are Fawn split cinnamon cocks which I pair to Yellow-bodied Hens (& sometimes to fawn hens).
I also sometimes pair a YB cock to a fawn hen.
You cannot get hens split to the cinnamon mutation as it is sex-linked recessive.
I think in Europe the bird we call cinnamon is called an isabel. Our fawns may be called dilute in Europe (not sure on this one though).
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I could try for a fawn photo a bit later but I don't have any cinnamons. There is considerable variation in the degree of dilution in Australian stocks of the fawn mutation and mine are less diluted than most as I like to select for prominent spotting & bright yellow belly colour which more dilution tends to fade.
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Ok, Tiaris i think i understand.
But i do not have a back up to suport for what i have here.
I do not no what this couple is: cinnamon or fawn or any oyher mutation, if it exits.
What i call to what i have is pastel but i do not no if this is a mutation. Pied they are for shore.
I will try to take some pictures of this couple. They have 3 chicks and they are pied for shore to.
Gustavo
But i do not have a back up to suport for what i have here.
I do not no what this couple is: cinnamon or fawn or any oyher mutation, if it exits.
What i call to what i have is pastel but i do not no if this is a mutation. Pied they are for shore.
I will try to take some pictures of this couple. They have 3 chicks and they are pied for shore to.
Gustavo
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They are both dilute-bodied mutations but the head colour remains apparently unaffected. Pastel is the same or very similar at least to cinnamon. If there is no isabel or other dilute-bodied mutation available to you, then you cannot go any further. Pied is very different to both fawn & cinnamon.