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Zebra Finch hen - which mutation is this?
Posted: 02 Nov 2015, 22:14
by Finchy
Hi
I know you will want a photo, but it's late and dark out, so please start with a description
Do you know which mutation this is please?
I have a Zebra Finch hen who is a very pretty
even grey all over - her back, her belly, everywhere. She has not so much as a fleck of any kind of marking on her - just this very consistent soft grey-blue colour. She has
no teardops yet generally I breed for strong teardops in my flock, so their absence must be part of the mutation.
I have all kinds of genes in my flock, so it could also be the blended effect of more than one primary mutation.
Thanks for any ideas
Re: Zebra Finch hen - which mutation is this?
Posted: 03 Nov 2015, 10:56
by Username
Photos!!
Re: Zebra Finch hen - which mutation is this?
Posted: 03 Nov 2015, 16:45
by finchbreeder
Charcol x dilute? Really do need a pic or 3, to be more accurate than guessing.
LML
Re: Zebra Finch hen - which mutation is this?
Posted: 04 Nov 2015, 11:26
by Finchy
fb, I think you might be right. Looking at her today I can see slightly darker shading in and under her tail, as happens in Charcoals. Her beak is also just very slightly peachy, rather than orange-red. It's as if a Charcoal has been acted up by a dilution gene. Could an Isabel gene have this effect?...because of the missing teardrop? I have one Fawn bird in my flock who also carries Isabel - he would have to be the dad. I also have lots of Marked Whites, but that wouldn't explain the missing teardrop.
When the weather clears up I'll try to get a decent photo. Could be a few days, by the looks of the forecast.
Re: Zebra Finch hen - which mutation is this?
Posted: 09 Dec 2015, 11:11
by Finchy
Re: Zebra Finch hen - which mutation is this?
Posted: 09 Dec 2015, 12:25
by Tiaris
Maybe a dilute blue charcoal??
That charcoal makes her look like a dwarf.
Re: Zebra Finch hen - which mutation is this?
Posted: 09 Dec 2015, 12:54
by Finchy
Yes, especially the last picture! Very weird perspective.
She is a bit smaller though, which pretty much confirms she has Silver blood in her as that line is smaller. I just wasn't aware of how Charcoal and Silver/Dilute can apparently blend into a kind of co-dominant result like this. I'm very curious what the males look like, but can't find any photos or discussions online.
Re: Zebra Finch hen - which mutation is this?
Posted: 09 Dec 2015, 14:11
by Tiaris
If you bred her, you must have split charcoal in your dilute blue birds so a male is just as possible as a hen. Maybe next clutch.
Re: Zebra Finch hen - which mutation is this?
Posted: 09 Dec 2015, 17:01
by Craig52
Are you sure it's a hen, it seems to have a very diluted male ear patch. Craig
Re: Zebra Finch hen - which mutation is this?
Posted: 09 Dec 2015, 17:18
by Finchy
Pretty sure. Acts like a hen, and no trace of flank markings.