What colour

[Blue Cuban]

Hi Rich,so is what your saying,a yellow hen split to blue is a pastel and a green back hen split to blue is also a pastel,garyh

G'day Garry.
This is steering away from the actual topic so I expect the "A" team to intervene at some point..

A green hen split to blue will always be a green hen split to blue.
But if someone was to say "hey I have some pastel hens split to blue for sale if interested" I would clearly understand that these birds are yellow hens split to blue.

[garyh]

Hi Rich,had to ask the question,these terms are not used in Vic,garyh

[Blue Cuban]

Hi Rich,had to ask the question,these terms are not used in Vic,garyh

No dramas, these terms are rarely used in WA as well but when used I know what they are on about.

[alvin]

My understanding is ;
SF pastel green cock - SF cock coming from yellow and green back parents (washed out color on the back)
SF pastel cock - SF yellow back ( bluey grey around head and bib)
DF pastel cock - DF Yellow back ( white around head and under the bib, Brighter yellow on the back)
SF pastel blue cock - washed out bluey grey back, grey around the head and bib (carrying genes for green, blue, yellow on the back color)
DF pastel blue - commonly known as Silver cock

Hens
Hens are all SF, I have also read blue hens and silver hens are DF, so still unsure there. I don't have the problem of using the words silver or DF pastel as all of us breeding these birds know what the next person is referring to.

[Tiaris]

Can't get DF hens at all.

[Blue Cuban]

Can't get DF hens at all.

I agree.
But I have heard the same term being used as well but I interpreted it as a count of factors in a certain mutation kinda like a heavy pied and a light pied being SF/DF but I have never ready been able define it probably because it's not true.

[Blue Cuban]

Another take on it is it takes 2 blue factors to produce a blue bird and all splits are SF.... Just a thought..!
I have definitely herd this terminology used with our over seas friends.

[Tiaris]

That's true, but confusing when comparing an autosomal recessive mutation (blue) to a sex-linked dominant one (yellow-backed).

[Blue Cuban]

That's true, but confusing when comparing an autosomal recessive mutation (blue) to a sex-linked dominant one (yellow-backed).

Indeed it is..