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Black breasted double bars - are they a thing?

Posted: 22 Jun 2017, 21:20
by fraudster
Saw a bloke advertise black breasted double bars. Not sure if they are actually a mutation, but rather, is due to insufficient lighting. Can anyone confirm this? Just curious. Cheers

Re: Black breasted double bars - are they a thing?

Posted: 23 Jun 2017, 07:17
by Tiaris
I saw it too & strongly suspect they are a case of induced melanism. If so, this is not a mutation & will not pass onto offspring gentically & should eventually moult back to normal when kept in "favourable" conditions.

Re: Black breasted double bars - are they a thing?

Posted: 23 Jun 2017, 07:23
by arthur
Mate of mine had some, bought from the pet shop at normal (pet shop) prices

They moulted out to normal

So perhaps 'induced melanism'

However one day a true melanistic will probably occur

May be worth a punt if the price is what you consider to be reasonable

Be worth asking the seller if they have passed the trait on

Re: Black breasted double bars - are they a thing?

Posted: 23 Jun 2017, 10:48
by Tiaris
The seller in this case is a dealer so he would probably tell you whatever he thinks you want to hear.

Re: Black breasted double bars - are they a thing?

Posted: 23 Jun 2017, 10:59
by fraudster
@tiaris lol not sure if you've dealt with him before but I have. But he is a shifty bugger - won't say any more!!!

Re: Black breasted double bars - are they a thing?

Posted: 23 Jun 2017, 12:16
by Tiaris
Yes, I've previously sent birds to him.

Re: Black breasted double bars - are they a thing?

Posted: 26 Jun 2017, 00:17
by finchbreeder
Probably melanistic like others have said. But I thought there had been RARE incidents of birds that did not moult out. Unfortunately have not heard of any that passed it on but.
LML

Re: Black breasted double bars - are they a thing?

Posted: 26 Jun 2017, 07:16
by Tiaris
Melanistic birds kept in less than ideal circumstances will maintain the melanism long-term. Its usually only when ideal environment & diet is provided that the normal colour moults back in.

Re: Black breasted double bars - are they a thing?

Posted: 05 Aug 2017, 16:03
by T Adamthwaite
I breed one the nest had 4 young and one had a pure black chest i thought i might have fluked something i beleive he was a male but he ended up going to normal double bar but it took sometime. tony