Aussie Finch Forum

I recently saw Crimsons and Red Painteds in the same aviary (1m wide X 3m long) with no signs of aggression and both pairs were breeding. I'd like to get a pair of Red Stars in my aviary (2.4m wide X 4.8m long) with my single pair of Crimsons. The Crimsons are still young and do not appear to be aggressive. I appreciate that every pair is different, but just wondering if anyone out there has run Crimsons and Stars together and were they compatible or not.

I've seen Crimson/Star hybrids - same genus.

OK best not to then.

crimson star hybrids look nice ;)

escapin wrote: 29 Nov 2017, 18:30 crimson star hybrids look nice ;)

Mmm......yes many different hybrids would all look different or nice but are they any good for anything seeming that the majority of hybrids are infertile

As it's a known fact that Crimsons are in decline in the wild and aswell as being rather sought after in captivity I wouldn't of really thought that hybrids are a wise choice to wanna try and produce

Stewart, the black bellied crimson finch in Northern Australia is very stable in the wild, you maybe confused with the white belly crimson which is what you say as under threat. Craig

Hybrids while nice to look at, do not however contribute productively to aviculture in general. Not putting down the intentional hybrid breeders, who wish to produce singers. That is done for a specific purpose. But while I have been guilty myself in the past, it is best to avoid mixing closely related birds to avoid the "accidental" hybrid trap.
LML

Craig52 wrote: 30 Nov 2017, 08:59 Stewart, the black bellied crimson finch in Northern Australia is very stable in the wild, you maybe confused with the white belly crimson which is what you say as under threat. Craig

Hi Craig, yes mate I was more so aiming at the White bellied Crimson

finchbreeder wrote: 30 Nov 2017, 09:36 Hybrids while nice to look at, do not however contribute productively to aviculture in general. Not putting down the intentional hybrid breeders, who wish to produce singers. That is done for a specific purpose. But while I have been guilty myself in the past, it is best to avoid mixing closely related birds to avoid the "accidental" hybrid trap.
LML

Absolutely, I very much agree here, I must admit that I've fallen into the trap of specific hybrid breeding meself over a number of years with the British native finches and producing many mules aswell but these birds although not being fertile they are bred purely for exhibition purposes only,

In hind site it's not really worth breeding em and nowadays I don't keep any of the British finches no more as I just predominantly specialise in normal Gouldians and zebras etc and I aim to try and get the best possible birds that I can through careful selective breeding

I have colony breed crimsons , stars and painteds in medium sized aviaries with no problems along with many other Australian finches.With single pairs of each birds in multiple aviaries. I only run pairs of dimorphic birds and try to keep even numbers of sexes with the monomorphic species.I think if you keep to this you will greatly minimise the chances of hybrids. It does sound like it is something to watch out for though if others have experienced this. With aggression I had breed B/B crimsons for many years so I am only talking from my experience from my line.