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What mutation is this or is it normal

Posted: 19 Dec 2017, 15:51
by alvin
These are all from the same parents

Re: What mutation is this or is it normal

Posted: 19 Dec 2017, 16:31
by Craig52
Without knowing what mutations your birds are carrying it is impossible to know, maybe ADB or cinnamon or what Sbill called them i can't remember. The cock bird looks very seagreen blue but the last pic of the blue hen looks like a normal blue. The bird in the first pic is very soft feathered which tends to throw a different light on it imo. Cheers Craig

Re: What mutation is this or is it normal

Posted: 19 Dec 2017, 18:20
by Tiaris
Top one looks normal to me.

Re: What mutation is this or is it normal

Posted: 19 Dec 2017, 18:22
by Tiaris
The middle one is in very different light to the other two so very hard to make out if there is a difference unless the pics are taken in the same visual environment.

Re: What mutation is this or is it normal

Posted: 19 Dec 2017, 19:03
by alvin
Due to not seeing many pictures or references of these other mutations, besides the light feathers on the wing ends and tail. I see slight differences among chicks in the nest, but when they leave the nest they pretty much all look the same. I believe the blue is mixed with all kinds of mutations nowadays, so one can expect anything. I only have the blue and Euro yellow in my aviaries and stay clear from the rest. I like the AY and Dilute but kept on their own not mixed with other mutations.

Re: What mutation is this or is it normal

Posted: 20 Dec 2017, 08:38
by Tiaris
Its not just the blue mutation which has been mixed with everything else nowadays - all colour forms are mixed up pretty randomly. That's why it often takes a slightly forensic examination to work out what people have.
In the early eighties when most Gouldians in Australia were normals and a couple of mutations were just starting to be seen in smallish numbers, I remember an English bloke saying to me that eventually it will be like Europe where it is "bloody hard to find a normal bird and just as hard to find a mutation which isn't mixed up with various other mutations". I clearly remember thinking (naively) to myself that it will never come to that here. How things change with time. Progress??

Re: What mutation is this or is it normal

Posted: 20 Dec 2017, 10:19
by finchbreeder
What are the parents? Just guessing that they are one each OH and BH and one each GB and BB? Any chance of a pic of the whole family together in the same setting?
LML

Re: What mutation is this or is it normal

Posted: 20 Dec 2017, 12:47
by alvin
Father - red head split black - pic
Mother - red head, split blue, green back

Re: What mutation is this or is it normal

Posted: 21 Dec 2017, 10:04
by finchbreeder
Makes sence when you look at the daughters. Dad is a nice looking bird. A couple more pics of the son might help someone work out what he is. Thanks for clarifying.
LML

Re: What mutation is this or is it normal

Posted: 28 May 2018, 20:41
by CathyCraftz
First one is a normal hen, second one couldn't tell because it had a lot of pin feathers, third one is a blue.