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Re: Hourglass tail
Posted: 15 Feb 2018, 09:42
by Flight Feathers
finchbreeder wrote: ↑13 Feb 2018, 12:00
Never heard of an hourglass tail, hopefully someone more knowledgable can help. What do you mean by bb? Is the father gray or fawn pied? There is a lot that people need to know to answer with any hope of acuracy. Enjoy the mutations.
LML
I don't know what the father is... He is a pied of some mutation that possibly has Isabel and orange breast in it and some fawn too but I won't know unless I breed him to a non pied.
Re: Hourglass tail
Posted: 15 Feb 2018, 09:45
by Flight Feathers
Tass wrote: ↑13 Feb 2018, 19:33
black breast and black fronted are both recessive as finchbreeder said. Not sure what NZ has.
To get a full BB you would need 2 splits at minimum as the mutation must be in both parents. Example if you have 2 Grey/Bb (grey split to BB) , then you will produce Greys , Greys/BB , and BB . The only issue you will have is that in most cases you cant tell the difference between Greys and Greys split to BB .
going by the internet Black BREASTED splits do show signs , I don't know if the Australian Black FRONTED does. Which does NZ have ?
Always better to breed from one split and one full bird as you will always know that it is split with a recessive gene
I've never heard of black fronted unless it's the same as black bodied? I think we have black breasted and we also have their mutations like penguin, cream, silver, black cheek, and black face and marks whites also.
Re: Hourglass tail
Posted: 15 Feb 2018, 10:06
by finchbreeder
http://zebracrazy.byethost13.com/AllMut.htm?i=1
Have a look at this site it will help clarify some of the mutations people are mentioning.
LML
Re: Hourglass tail
Posted: 15 Feb 2018, 10:08
by Flight Feathers
Thank you, I've been on that site before and looked through all the mutations. I'd obviously forgotten about black fronted! Thanks!
Re: Hourglass tail
Posted: 15 Feb 2018, 10:23
by Tass
black fronted and black bodied are australian mutations
Currently we don't have in Aust , of the list of mutations you mentioned , the penguin and the black cheek, lucky guys
we also don't have black breasted , so in your case work on YOUR mutation being black breasted. (as all 3 are different in some way).
finchbreeder has a link to photos of hourglass feathers,
Re: Hourglass tail
Posted: 15 Feb 2018, 11:06
by Flight Feathers
Okay thanks!