The Indian Mynah and cultural relatvism tangent thread

[Brisbane_Finches_333]

I went to vietnam for a holiday some 4 or 5 months ago and in most shopfronts or houses, small songbirds like Oriental White-Eyes, Bulbuls and Thrushes in miniscule golden cages. People also tie chickens and parrots to perches outside shops and restaraunts.

[noah.till]

I went to vietnam for a holiday some 4 or 5 months ago and in most shopfronts or houses, small songbirds like Oriental White-Eyes, Bulbuls and Thrushes in miniscule golden cages. People also tie chickens and parrots to perches outside shops and restaraunts.

i guess its just their way of life, and really they do not replenish captive populations through breeding, they just go and trap them and if they get sick or old, they would more than likely just chuck them out like an old toy, or eat them

[Brisbane_Finches_333]

Yeah. Big feral populations of those birds in cities. Java sparrows are also popular there and a large introduced population resides in Hanoi central.

[noah.till]

Yeah. Big feral populations of those birds in cities. Java sparrows are also popular there and a large introduced population resides in Hanoi central.

That makes me wonder, why aren't there people keeping Indian Miners???

[Brisbane_Finches_333]

I don't know. Sometimes people put lighbulbs on the cages and hang several dozens of them outside their shop to make them look high profile.

[noah.till]

I don't know. Sometimes people put lighbulbs on the cages and hang several dozens of them outside their shop to make them look high profile.

Jazz them up I guess, I wonder if people have bred Indian Miners in Australia, there is a big enough feral population to give it a go
There was something on Petlink a while back with people selling 'Indian Hill Miners', but I am pretty sure it was a scam

[Brisbane_Finches_333]

Hmmm. I think they're illegal in queensland.

[noah.till]

Hmmm. I think they're illegal in queensland.

To keep is it illegal

[noah.till]

Wait, they are not illegal, read this:
The Indian myna is not declared a prohibited or restricted
invasive animal under the Biosecurity Act 2014, however
everyone has a general biosecurity obligation (GBO)
to take reasonable and practical steps to minimise the
risks associated with invasive plants and animals under
their control.
Local governments have a biosecurity plan that covers
invasive plants and animals in their area and may require
additional actions to be taken on certain species; some of
these may be applied under local laws. Refer to your local
government for more information.
Indian mynas are not protected under the Nature
Conservation Act 1992. Indian mynas and their eggs that
are more than half incubated are defined as ‘animals’
under the Animal Care and Protection Act 2001.
This legal status means that, although there is no
obligation to control Indian mynas, they may be controlled
if this is done in a way that causes the animal as little pain
as is reasonable.
Local governments do not have an obligation to control
Indian mynas, but may do so.

[Brisbane_Finches_333]

Interesting. I thought I read they were illegal on the government's website.