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new mutation?

Posted: 04 Jun 2010, 00:15
by aviario vera
This Gould was born a year and half ago. has a white throat and told me I had to wait until next year to move out. if when he went out again moved the white throat would be a mutation and if you removed was not a mutation.
in short, has moved two times and still has a white throat.


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Re: new mutation?

Posted: 04 Jun 2010, 08:48
by gomer
Looks like a white breasted greenback mutation to me.

Re: new mutation?

Posted: 04 Jun 2010, 16:50
by finchbreeder
The bird in the 1st vid is a standard BH WB GB But the bird in the 2nd vid is not a standard RH PB GB. Not with that little white spot under the chin. To early to say for sure that it is a new mutation, but can't discount it yet either. Moving him is irralavent. If he goes through a full adult moult without losing this spot and no other unrelated bird shows the same spot I would be quietly confident. Regardless, in the meantime provided he is as healthy as he looks and provided you still have his mother and she is also healthy. I would put them to nest together. As this is the surest way to bring out a mutation. If mum is not possible a sister would do. Why mum in preference to a sister? becaue if it is sex linked you achieve nothing. This is what I would do if he was mine.
By the way from the distress shown by the bird in the first vid, if it was me I would half the time I vid the birds for.
LML

Re: new mutation?

Posted: 04 Jun 2010, 17:25
by gomer
Ok your talking about the second video sorry.Dito what finchbreeder said,It is a very interesting bird indeed.We have one member here who has a bird with a split head colour being red on one side and black on the other,A very strange one aswell.Anyway good luck with it.You have a very extensive setup there aswell liked the film clip for tv.

Re: new mutation?

Posted: 04 Jun 2010, 19:42
by Jayburd
Southy here on the finchforum has something reasonably similar. southy? any comments?

Re: new mutation?

Posted: 04 Jun 2010, 22:18
by Pete Sara
probably split for rh yb purple breast when white spots like that show up.

Re: new mutation?

Posted: 05 Jun 2010, 09:50
by Diane
aviario vera wrote:has moved two times and still has a white throat.
finchbreeder wrote:Moving him is irralavent.
I think that might be something to do with translation, I think aviario vera means the bird has moulted twice.

Re: new mutation?

Posted: 05 Jun 2010, 12:35
by jusdeb
I think the white box and the bright light upsets the birds ability to get a handle of the surroundings , as said the bird does look distressed .

Re: new mutation?

Posted: 11 Jun 2010, 07:23
by aviario vera
Good evening, I've been talking to several judges and all have assured me that is a new mutation. greetings

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Re: new mutation?

Posted: 11 Jun 2010, 08:20
by Jayburd
I'm pretty sure they are splits, not new mutations.
I have seen a few around different collections here in Oz.