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Aus Finch Breeders Guide to Available Species

Posted: 12 Nov 2010, 19:31
by dano_68
This post is in responce to this thread: viewtopic.php?f=45&t=4859

Here is a list I compiled from 2003 – 2005. Basically I had been out of the finch game for a few years and was getting ready to plunge back in with a vengeance! But the problem was, I had no idea what was out there. So I began to research and was surprised by some of the results.

My main source for this list was from data collected by the dreaded National Exotic Bird Registration Scheme (NEBRS) that was established in 1996 and ended in 2002. Because of this scheme many of the once common foreign species had almost disappeared! I also used the Queensland Finch Society census data, auction and sales data and the same from other smaller clubs around the country. I also clocked up a massive phone bill talking to private and commercial breeders all over Australia – from Tassy to Nth Qld, and Sydney to Perth! Unfortunately back then many of the old guys didn’t have email.

Anyway, I then decide this list may be helpful to other people so I add their availability and breeder rating (beginner / experience etc.). Originally I was going to include prices but this seemed to differ dramatically all over Aus, so I left it out. I do keep an up to date separate list of Qld prices for my own benefit.

This list has been published in most of the finch / softbill magazines and journals both here and internationally. But in case you didn’t see it then, I am posting it again here.

I hope you enjoy!

ps. Ok, this site wont let me upload a PDF, so i tried the Excel file and it timed out!!

So I have uploaded to the QFS site so you can download it here: http://www.qfs.org.au/Downloads/Aust_F ... pecies.pdf

Re: Aus Finch Breeders Guide to Available Species

Posted: 12 Nov 2010, 19:43
by iaos
Thanks for sharing :D Great effort.

Now let the debate begin :ugeek:

lesser red browed finch?

Re: Aus Finch Breeders Guide to Available Species

Posted: 12 Nov 2010, 19:44
by Jayburd
oh did you put this together? I've seen this before - in fact, it's in the 2005 Finch News year binder... very good, have learnt form it :) awesome work!
lesser redbrows... what about them?

Re: Aus Finch Breeders Guide to Available Species

Posted: 12 Nov 2010, 19:48
by Jayburd
By the way, Vietnamese Sparrows are available in australia, I'm not saying who has them but I have seen a few pairs in a guy's aviaries.

Re: Aus Finch Breeders Guide to Available Species

Posted: 12 Nov 2010, 20:00
by dano_68
Jayburd wrote:oh did you put this together? I've seen this before - in fact, it's in the 2005 Finch News year binder... very good, have learnt form it :) awesome work!
lesser redbrows... what about them?
Yes, take a look at your Finch News again, you will see my name in it! Lol
And what is a Vietnamese Sparrow? I know of a few Timor Sparrows around the traps now (they look a bit like a Java Sparrow).

As for the Lesser Redbrows - or MacGillivray's there is debate about weather they are a recognised sub-species. I think that's what he means. I didn't put them in my list as I consider them to be a variant - not a full sub-species. (A variant is like red face, balck face, yellow face Gouldians).

Re: Aus Finch Breeders Guide to Available Species

Posted: 12 Nov 2010, 20:08
by Jayburd
sorry about terrible pic - I don't know the latin name, but I took this pic. You can see the bright yellow eyebrow though. If I go to see the guy again, I will get a better picture.
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Re: Aus Finch Breeders Guide to Available Species

Posted: 12 Nov 2010, 20:14
by E Orix
Jayburd
That is not a Vietnamese Sparrow(Pegu Sparrow) it is a Napoleon Weaver

Re: Aus Finch Breeders Guide to Available Species

Posted: 12 Nov 2010, 20:19
by dano_68
Yes Orix is dead right – that’s a Napoleon Weaver! The yellow eyebrow is a dead giveaway… and I know the Pegu Sparrow (didn't know they were also called Vietnamese Sparrow??) The Pegu Sparrow looks similar to the house sparrow in Aus.

Re: Aus Finch Breeders Guide to Available Species

Posted: 12 Nov 2010, 20:22
by Jayburd
interesting - he most definitely told me it was a vietnamese, and he did have napoleons and he called THEM napoleons... very reputable breeder too.
Maybe I got the wrong bird :oops:

Re: Aus Finch Breeders Guide to Available Species

Posted: 13 Nov 2010, 07:40
by MadHatter
Or perhaps he was pulling your leg jay?