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King Quail Mutations

Posted: 26 Dec 2010, 20:15
by Quail Dale
Hi All,
I’m after information on king quail mutations,

I have the following mutations:
Silver, recessive mutation
Cinnamon, Sex-linked
I also have a pair that produces cinnamon looking chick but as both parents are normal looking and the first one was a male I believe it to be recessive mutation.
I also have a silver male with a lot of red that I paired to a normal hen and she has only just started lying, so I have no other information about this colour.

I would like to now if you are breeding the so called Recessive cinnamon and I would like to see any photos of them and with it combined with the silver, as I have some very white looking king quail that I believe it this combination.

Thanks,
Dale

Re: King Quail Mutations

Posted: 26 Dec 2010, 21:55
by thehammer
With the lighter coloured Kings you may be referring to “Creams” (from breeding Silvers with Cinnamons).

I had the “copper” mutation King Quail many years ago. The cock-bird was lighter than the normal with a reddish tinge. The young were a copper/reddish colour. I had no long term success with these as they seemed to be inbred. I could only get them to survive to about 2 weeks. This mutation was developed by a aviculturist in Melbourne and it was actually verified by someone from the Avicultural Society of Australia.

Re: King Quail Mutations

Posted: 26 Dec 2010, 22:50
by jusdeb
:D Welcome to both of you ...

Re: King Quail Mutations

Posted: 27 Dec 2010, 11:39
by Quail Dale
thehammer wrote:With the lighter coloured Kings you may be referring to “Creams” (from breeding Silvers with Cinnamons).
I do have SilverCinnamon kings but these others look white,
WhiteKingQuail1.JPG
This is one with a Normal, Cinnamon and a Silver. When a photo of this colour is taken with a flash you can see the brown colour in it.

Dale

Re: King Quail Mutations

Posted: 28 Dec 2010, 23:19
by thehammer
Are you able to take a better picture? With your “whites” are you able to visually sex them? How will you pair them up, I would put the white with a normal.

Re: King Quail Mutations

Posted: 29 Dec 2010, 13:50
by finchbreeder
Welcome to you both. If you put 2 normal quail together and produce both normal and lighter chicks the parents are obviously splits not true normals, no matter what your eyes tell you. Looks like you have a genuine white, though even your Normal silver is very pale. Had a pied, 50% each cinnamon and white some years ago. No success breeding the line unfortunately. Whites do, I have heard, turn up very rarely and it seems to come from cinnamon/silver crossing. To establish this line breed this bird to it's opposite sex parent then outcross.
LML

Re: King Quail Mutations

Posted: 30 Dec 2010, 11:10
by Quail Dale
New Photos
This is the male that produced the "White" which looks to be a recessive Brown with the Silver mutation
Brown Father.JPG
And This is the Hen. She back on eggs.
Brown Mother.JPG
This is a young brown, the first brown was a male that I got when I bought the young from the pair above. Before I was able to get the pair. But he die before I could breed from him.
Brown Young.JPG
This is the same "white" female from above post with two silvers females, as you can see the brown has come out more, so she is no longer white.
WhiteQuail3.JPG
I will pair them to Normals to get splits, Then the young splits from one pair will be breed with the young splits from another pair and I should get same with out the silver. And I will keep out crossing, and pairing coloured to splits.

Dale

Re: King Quail Mutations

Posted: 04 Jan 2011, 17:32
by thehammer
I wouldn’t class that as a white…
Interesting - unfortunately I don’t have any free space as I have kings & stubbs; will soon be getting BBBQ’s!

Re: King Quail Mutations

Posted: 06 Jan 2011, 07:25
by Jayburd
welcome both of you,
i would class that as a light silver.
nice birds :)

Re: King Quail Mutations

Posted: 07 Jan 2011, 13:05
by Quail Dale
This is a young SilverBrown, as you can see they look white when young.
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This is one of the "Red Breasted" males I have, I'm out crossing to normals. I will then put the young from different pairs together next season and hopefully get more coloured birds.
Red Male 1.JPG

Dale