Air freighting birds

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SamDavis
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Hi all,

I'm organisng the shipment of some red siskins from perth to sydney using Aus. Air Express (AAE). Have just booked them in for a Tues evening flight, but the perth AAE clerk recommended I check with NSW quarantine as they may need to be inspected. I've rung a number of times and left messages, but have not had a response. Sounds odd to me that quarantine would be interested in a domestic import. Perhaps someone on AFF can enlighten me?

Also, is a small standard carry cage is fine?

Regards, Sam
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Diane
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I cant say about the quarantine aspect of it.
I have only freighted one lot of birds from Vic to SA and I wasnt told that they might need to be inspected.
Not sure about the standard carry cage for freighting, when I got my birds they were in a very well constructed box with small holes for air ventilation and everything was screwed shut. I thought this was a really good idea as anything could pierce the wire on a normal carry cage on a journey, then with the normal drop lock on these cages it might be too tempting to "just have a look" I would certainly be locking the cage at the least.
Go the box here, will take a pic
*running up to the shed, camera in hand*
Freight box 001.jpg
Freight box 002.jpg
Same ventilation holes on the other side and some in the back
The front was screwed on. My name was written on the box too even though the freight company had attached dockets.
All the birds arrived safely and in very good condition.
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Same small box , no water , no food , locked up like fort knox . Came off Qantas and straight through to me without inspection ( domestic airport ).
Birds arrived fine and went straight onto some Spark and seed however I was a nervous wreck.
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VR1Ton
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I've sent birds to & fro for years & never had an inspection of any kind, Quarentine, NPWS, no one.
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Have imported a number of birds from WA to Sydney, through both private breeders and recognized dealers. All have been Class II natives, which I would have thought would attract more interest given the licensing regimes. Quarantine have never held them up at all.

A word of caution - make sure the siskins have a good couple of days on Spark electrolyte or something similar before the flight and to the extent possible ship them in small numbers in each compartment. They stress easily, particularly as the cock birds tend to argue among themselves a lot even when their being shipped. Even if they do no obvious physical damage, it wears them out and they sometimes just drop dead a day later or so. Learned from hard experience.

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In a dark box I imagine the birds would have far less stress.
I've not freighted birds off, only received them. When I travel with birds I like to always add some loose seed in the box / millet spray. Somehow I feel eating calms them a bit. Suppose it also depends on how long the flight is.
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SamDavis
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Thanks for the info...
They leave perth at 11pm and I pick them up at 6.30am the next morning so in theory they would normally be sleeping. However just in case there's an issue, seed will be on the floor and a small show cage drinker with cotton wool and water. My brother is in perth so I'll make sure he (or the seller) locks/screws the door shut somehow. Maybe the wire front can be covered with cloth to make it darker inside.
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Just had a call form WA Dept of Environ and Convervation. No need to do anything at the WA end, and as far as he knew nothing to do at the NSW end either - so that's good.

Spark is a good idea - I'll give the seller a call...
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I think the main problem is going the other way into W.A. I have never had any problems with inspectors nor ever seen one at the airport.Mind you all my imports /exports have all come/gone through a S.A. airport.
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Those of us who've flown from Perth to Sydney will know this is not easy even for humans. It's a 4 and a half hour flight and Perth is 3 hours behind Sydney, which means that although they get on the plane at 11.00pm, and probably won't have slept much before then, they only get a few hours of possible sleep on the plane before they land here and the day kicks off = Jet lag!
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