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Blue or white breast?

Posted: 17 Sep 2011, 20:16
by flap
We recently bought two uncoloured gouldians, supposed to be WB. one of them seems to have a blueish tinge to it, I am guessing it is an optical illusion. Is there such a thing as light blue breasted gouldians??

Re: Blue or white breast?

Posted: 17 Sep 2011, 20:18
by vettepilot_6
have heard of Blue Breasted never seen one....seem to recall it was recessive I think... :?:

Re: Blue or white breast?

Posted: 17 Sep 2011, 20:24
by TheFinchMan101
If it is blue, it will most likely moult out of it and into white breast next year.
Nice looking bird other than that though!! :thumbup:

Re: Blue or white breast?

Posted: 17 Sep 2011, 20:26
by AMCA26
Most WB i see the breast has that blue tinge in it. Dont know why.

Re: Blue or white breast?

Posted: 17 Sep 2011, 20:41
by finchbreeder
Only whites round here are white with no blue. Look forward to seeing a progress pic in another month. Cause that sure is blue.
LML

Re: Blue or white breast?

Posted: 18 Sep 2011, 10:02
by spanna
The middle photo (with the flash?) looks like a normal white breast, but can see the blue tinge in the other pics. Think you might be right in that it may just be an optical illusion, or the white feathers over the grey juvenile feathers make it appear different. Will be interesting to see in a couple of months time though.

Re: Blue or white breast?

Posted: 21 Sep 2011, 23:00
by mackstaa
There are goulds around which some call 'bad white breast' which is a mix of the white and purple gene.

He may produce unclean breast colour babies as well. Will be interesting to see what he looks like fully coloured.

Re: Blue or white breast?

Posted: 22 Sep 2011, 00:40
by natamambo
mackstaa wrote:There are goulds around which some call 'bad white breast' which is a mix of the white and purple gene.

He may produce unclean breast colour babies as well. Will be interesting to see what he looks like fully coloured.
Lilac breast is a recognised mutation, which can go from a tinge of purple in the white to almost purple. The geneticist in me says that in fact it's not a "bad" white but rather a "bad" purple, similar to hair colour in humans. Red is red is red but blonde to black are stops along a continuum which is not red, likewise with lilac breast I believe it would years of research to prove it though and not a lot of benefit for the amount of seed consumed. However it works, it is certainly multi-allelic.

Re: Blue or white breast?

Posted: 22 Sep 2011, 07:43
by Tiaris
Lilac-chested is usually expressed as a heavily diluted purple. With this bird its definitely a case of "bad white breast" where the purple tint can be seen under the white. It is still a genetically white-breasted bird IMO and different to a lilac-chested.

Re: Blue or white breast?

Posted: 22 Sep 2011, 08:48
by flap
There is no purple or pink in those patches of colour. So it would not be a lilac breast. It will be interesting to see how it develops as the bird colours up and whether it does moult out. Now to decide what to do with him once he is coloured up.