its well appreciated. i just want the best for my lil gouldians 
i cant bare to see a sick gouldian it can be heart breaking watching them die and feeling helpless. i will check out those links and learn as much as posible. thanks again. i hope also to post some pics of my gouldians later, i know most are the usual black heads or orange heads but i still think every gouldian is worth at least a photo for all to see