What Mutations may i have in this nest ??? (UPDATE)

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Update, so it seems at least one of the parents isn't split blue and its also possible that the hen isn't split aus yellow

out of the 5 babies it seems i have 2 normals, 1 sfy cock and 2 yellows, im trying to work out if both yellows are just sfy hens, cause the one on the left has a light yellow/white head with a pink beak and the yellow on the right has a dark looking head with a black beak, their nodules are slightly different too.

iv misplaced my guild to gouldians and their mutations book, so have not been able too look into colours of mutations etc and compare the siblings....

could i maybe have an australian yellow?

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[quote="Misso"]Update, so it seems at least one of the parents isn't split blue and its also possible that the hen isn't split aus yellow

out of the 5 babies it seems i have 2 normals, 1 sfy cock and 2 yellows, im trying to work out if both yellows are just sfy hens, cause the one on the left has a light yellow/white head with a pink beak and the yellow on the right has a dark looking head with a black beak, their nodules are slightly different too.

iv misplaced my guild to gouldians and their mutations book, so have not been able too look into colours of mutations etc and compare the siblings....

could i maybe have an australian yellow?

Hi Misso,what you said is what you have,the two yellows are SFYB hens and neither are AY's as i have never seen a full yellow AY in the nest,they all look pied in the nest.
Nice healthy looking youngens though. Craig
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Both of the links show aus yellow fledglings with pale beaks.
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thanks guys, im still scratching my head as to why one yellow has a pink beak and one has a black beak?

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Tiaris wrote:I've never bred Blues (& never will) but I wouldn't think that being split to blue would affect the nodule colour at all, would it?

sorry after re-reading this post i realised i read your comment wrong Tiaris, your referring to gomer's comment of a white nodule possibly indicating being split blue?

its something iv never come across or read about...

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of a white nodule possibly indicating being split blue?
It has been put forward as being a way to tell splits from non splits, was posted on the forum,
viewtopic.php?f=90&t=10445&hilit=+nodules
I was willing to give it a try and have been noting nodule colours this breeding season.
BUT and its a big but....... if that is the case then none of the normal looking young I have from known split blue parents will be splits and I just cant see that, the odds are at least some of them would be splits.
I dont think the theory works myself, but I will be keeping my notes just to see.
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bluebutterfly213 wrote:
of a white nodule possibly indicating being split blue?
It has been put forward as being a way to tell splits from non splits, was posted on the forum,
viewtopic.php?f=90&t=10445&hilit=+nodules
I was willing to give it a try and have been noting nodule colours this breeding season.
BUT and its a big but....... if that is the case then none of the normal looking young I have from known split blue parents will be splits and I just cant see that, the odds are at least some of them would be splits.
I dont think the theory works myself, but I will be keeping my notes just to see.

thanks bb, yes i was aware of a usa website mentioning this, this was focused on newly hatched young if i remember correctly then by about day 3 of age the nodules changed to normal.

my yellow still has the whitish nodules so i wonder if its indicating something?

only time will tell lol

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UPDATE...

Pic of Dad and light coloured yellow with green back in the background showing white spot on back of head.
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just some more pics of the young from this nest. its still interesting to see the colour difference in the 2 yellow young.
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the very light yellow is starting to show a white breast ( which i thought could be an aus yellow ) but as it didn't have a mottled back i had my doubts, but thought maybe the euro yellow gene could be effecting it in someway.... maybe :crazy:


but now i am thinking its just the simple fact that the white breast gene combined with the euro yellow makes the back lighter in colour. so 1 yellow euro hen has a white breast ( light in colour ) and the 2nd euro yellow hen has a purple breast ( darker yellow )

the only other thing that is throwing me out was the difference in mouth nodules of the 2 yellows, if they are both euro yellow hens then shouldn't their mouth nodules be exactly the same?? ( see pics in first post of mouth nodule difference )

my only other theory is the darker dirtier yellow back is a single factor male with a white breast making the back a yellow colour ( but his/her breast colour hasn't come thru yet )

at the moment most of the green back young seem to be showing purple feathers on the breast, no other white breast yet, still 2 more juvies that haven't shown any colour yet. if they are all purple breast then that will be interesting.

oh the fun of breeding mutation gouldians,

il have all the answers in a few weeks which should be good, iv enjoyed guessing the outcomes from this pairs babies. has really made me think :think:

misso :lol:
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Congratulations There beautiful :thumbup: :clap:
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To me Misso it could be a clear back AY the only way to be 100% sure is to
put it to a normal next year.
cheers flavio :thumbup: :thumbup:
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