Coccivet and Wormer gel risks?

[elferoz777]

Hi guys

Just after some advice re bird wormers and coccivet.

I bought coccivet to day for the first time.

I hate medications but given the large damp patches in the aviary I thought I would give it a whirl...

2 caps full for 10 litrs of water looked too strong so I diluted in another 50%.

Is there a large risk of over dosing?

Also what is the worming gel like?

I recently mixed 5 mls with 10 litres of water and it still looked like orange juice and smelt quite strong...

Does anyone use the worm out gel?

Are there any risks?

[Craig52]

[quote="elferoz777"]Hi guys

Just after some advice re bird wormers and coccivet.

I bought coccivet to day for the first time.

I hate medications but given the large damp patches in the aviary I thought I would give it a whirl...

2 caps full for 10 litrs of water looked too strong so I diluted in another 50%.

Is there a large risk of over dosing?

Also what is the worming gel like?

I recently mixed 5 mls with 10 litres of water and it still looked like orange juice and smelt quite strong...

I don't use coccivet,i use baycox at 3ml to a litre so to make up 10 litres that would be 30ml.Did you measure out a cap full to see how much it measured,i think its a bit of a slack way to measure out medications,surely it must say how much per litre in the directions on the bottle. Craig

[Brooksy]

Those two products are made for birds & there is a reason why they provide the mixing rations. Diluting it further you might as well not do it, if anything your giving the worms a chance at building up resistance to the meds and coccidiosis to proliferate.

[matcho]

Elf,
Go the the local chemist and get a large syringe with the measurements on it. Stick to Baycox and moxy plus in the required dosages. Easy peasy. Forget about the "capful" dosages. Fraught with danger. I know this for a fact because fish are a lot more forgiving than our avian friends but I came a cropper with the old "capfull" measurements with water changes years ago. Not nice.

[elferoz777]

interesting.

I have been reading up on the wormer gel and the coccivet and you find some varying responses..

The coccivet was ok....

I have a baby syringes I use to measure doses and I measured my caps size (approx 7ml) and was mixed with 10 l of water as per the instructions.

the concentration I followed was as per the instructions though the mixtures seemed way to strong....the wormer gel looked like orange juice almost and smelt very strong......have read this is the issue with the gel

A few yrs back worming was the only meds I gave my birds (if anything at all) and I never lost anything.

[Brooksy]

Both the wormer & Coccivet are fairly safe products. The only thing the wormer is not very palatable so you just put a little red cordial in it. With the Coccivet if you had a heap of chickens 10lts would be ok but for the aviary just mix up smaller amounts the ratio is 0.05ml to 30mls of water. i just mix up 1ml of Coccivet to 600ml of water its a lot easier

[iaos]

Sounds like 10 litres is supposed to be lasting a week or more in the aviary?

Any idea how long coccivet is stable/active once mixed with water? I know some meds need to be changed daily as they become ineffective once in water and exposed to light after a period of time.

Cheers Ian

[Myzomela]

It is always best to mix a fresh batch of medicated water fresh daily to maximise the effectiveness of the treatment.And always follow the directions.
If you want to mix a larger amount then refrigerate the unused amount and use it the next day.
I wouldn't mix a week's worth in advance. If you are going to go to the trouble of medicating the birds you may as well do it properly.

Also remember to remove other water sources when treating birds with in-water medication. This also includes preferably not feeding greens or other high-moisture foods- so long as there are no young being raised.

Coccivet is very safe and can be used with chicks in the nest.