Confirmation on this mutation

GouldIAmHooked · 02 Mar 2014, 22:52

Hi all, just wondered if someone could offer confirmation/clarification on what this mutation is.
I am thinking it is a RH PB split for Australian Yellow, but it does seem to have a lot of mottling
across the back and throughout the rump/tail.
I would appreciate some help with this.
Cheers, Joel.

03 Mar 2014, 01:35

My guess would be single factor euro yellow cock split for Aus yellow

alvin · 03 Mar 2014, 07:54

Misso wrote:My guess would be single factor euro yellow cock split for Aus yellow

Single factor cock split for Australian yellow

GouldIAmHooked · 03 Mar 2014, 08:31

Thanks, for that. Yes that makes sense.
More questions:
If I were to pair it to a RH PB Euro Yellow hen, would I be able to
see the difference between the young that are split for Aus Yellow and
those that are just Euro Yellow or Single Factor Yellow ?
Should I pair it with an Aus Yellow hen ?
Just not sure, it is a nice looking bird, but should we be keeping these
mutations separate ?

03 Mar 2014, 19:35

Certainly looks like a combination of the 2 yellow types. The problem is that many beginners, and casual finchos, do not know or understand the genetics of the two types, or in many cases that there are two different types. When I first came accross the "yellow" gouldians the source breeder did not differentiate so it was only due to this forum that I found out about the differences. And I am sure I am not the only one this has happened too. Do what you are comfortable doing, but be totally honest with anyone you sell the young too.
LML

03 Mar 2014, 20:10

GouldIAmHooked wrote:Thanks, for that. Yes that makes sense.
More questions:
If I were to pair it to a RH PB Euro Yellow hen, would I be able to
see the difference between the young that are split for Aus Yellow and
those that are just Euro Yellow or Single Factor Yellow ?
Should I pair it with an Aus Yellow hen ?
Just not sure, it is a nice looking bird, but should we be keeping these
mutations separate ?

Mate,i have stayed out of this topic as i am not one for deliberately breeding different gouldian mutations together,i know there are others out there who wouldn't have a clue what they have and others like you who want to ruin the mutations we have in Australia.Your last sentence made real good sense of what you should be doing other wise when you sell your excess birds they become someone elses problem after they breed them and the problem just gets bigger and bigger.
Sorry to be so harsh and yes others are breeding blues into most mutations now but it's the Euro yellows,Aust yellows and Australian Dilute backed birds that are being bred into each other that is stuffing these mutations up. Craig

GouldIAmHooked · 03 Mar 2014, 21:38

Thanks for your opinion/advice Craig, but I did not breed this bird,
I bought it, not really knowing what it was.
If I knew it was carrying both yellows, I wouldn't have bought it.
I don't even like pairing different head colours together, nevermind
purposely blending mutations.
I just wanted to know what it was, and if it could have been replicated,
what to pair it to. Now I've been told I can't, I'm still not sure what is the
best way to go.

04 Mar 2014, 09:19

GouldIAmHooked wrote:Thanks for your opinion/advice Craig, but I did not breed this bird,
I bought it, not really knowing what it was.
If I knew it was carrying both yellows, I wouldn't have bought it.
I don't even like pairing different head colours together, nevermind
purposely blending mutations.
I just wanted to know what it was, and if it could have been replicated,
what to pair it to. Now I've been told I can't, I'm still not sure what is the
best way to go.

There is no law saying you can't try to replicate that bird,and your right,it is a nice looking bird.If it is EY/AY,then there is Dominant sexlinked and Autosomal recessive mutations involved and you can't get split EY so you would breed some pure AY's and EY hens split for AY but keep it in house imo. Craig