Red Eyed Gouldian - Aus Yellow or Lutino?

[finchbreeder]

One of the problems with any mutaion is that it may or may not be like any other mutation that turned up somewhere else or some other time. Mutations being chance happenings. All you can do is observe what your chicks are and document your observations. On here would be good, so we can follow your progress. Time will tell what type you have. Again most of us are with you 100%
LML

[BrettB]

guarantee the new hen is 100% normal and carries no mutations.

Not always easy to find here in Perth. Took me some time to track down when I was looking.

Cheers
Brett

[Blue Cuban]

Firstly a BIG HAPPY FATHERS DAY to all the dads out there hope you have a great day..

Ok so here's a update on how this bird is going. I can honestly say I do believe the redness in the eye has darkened a little bit but it is still defiantly still present (but not like the Lutino's from Europe, Japan and the USA - not that im calling this bird a Lutino). This bird is around the 16 day old mark and is a loud and healthy bird going strong.

Personally I feel from my experience breeding Australian Yellows (none..lol) this bird maybe just end up being a Aus Yel but with a clean back due to the nodule's (although Lutino's share the same) and the incomplete dominance of the red eye.

However I still believe there is some different with this bird and I will be carefully breeding from it in the future......As always only time will tell.

Once again pictures don't do it justice getting consistent lighting and the mighty iPhone make things tricky.

[elferoz777]

I had a euro yellow chick last season that I am sure had plum coloured eyes. They darkened overtime to the point I couldn't tell whuch yellow had the plum eyes. Sadly the mother died but all the young are with a close mate.

Good luck with your birds

[Tiaris]

Yes, Euro yellows do have plum-coloured eyes more noticeable as juveniles.

[Blue Cuban]

Correct me if im wrong but the phenotype we see of this bird is not a European Yellow but genetically it is possible, only way to prove this is to breed from it.
Cause the father was a SFy this bird could genetically be a normal green back.

Despite having nodules that indicate being a Australian Yellow how long would the European Yellow retain it's plum like coloured eyes for?

[Craig52]

Correct me if im wrong but the phenotype we see of this bird is not a European Yellow but genetically it is possible, only way to prove this is to breed from it.
Cause the father was a SFy this bird could genetically be a normal green back.

Despite having nodules that indicate being a Australian Yellow how long would the European Yellow retain it's plum like coloured eyes for?

There are other indications that can be taken into account,are there any dark feathers at all in the body.Are the toe nails all bone/white in colour as is the bill.I think you still have to wait another few weeks to see if the eyes darken but going by your latest pic,imo i think you have some thing different as the eyes haven't changed that much. Good luck Richard Cheers Craig

Ps,i forgot to ask what its siblings colours were and did they have red/plum eyes

[Blue Cuban]

Ps,i forgot to ask what its siblings colours were and did they have red/plum eyes

Hi Craig

There was 3 chicks hatched in this clutch, 1 green and another yellow.

The green chick is still alive and will be a hen with normal (dark) eyes, normal skin and nodules.

The other yellow chick had slightly pale skin compared to the red eyed bird in question and it had normal eyes from the day they open with normal nodules. Unfortunately this bird died 3 days after opening its eyes showing no sign why.

A little trivia this pair has had 5 clutch's from last season to current and they have only ever had 2 green hens and all the rest have been yellow hens, no cocks...


Rich

[Craig52]

Ok,time will tell.Good Luck Craig

[Tiaris]

If the father was a SFY then it would be a SFY hen IMO. Time will tell as you say.