New Insemination Techniques

[TailFeathers]

Hello All,

I've been researching heavily, all the methods used for artificial insemination, including for non-avian species. I have developed a series of methods and procedures which are vastly different from those which are used out there.

In the next coming weeks me and some breeders will have our supplies shipped to us and begin the process of artificially insemenating the introduced species to Australia, the European Goldfinch.

I will post my results soon, hopefully around the end of December or beginning or January.

[SamDavis]

A few questions...

1. Is this research associated with University work?
2. How do you intend to collect the semen?
3. How do you intend to stimulate the hen breeding/egg laying condition?
4. How will you physically inseminate the hen?

[Tiaris]

Then:
How will you incubate the egg(s)?
How will you rear the young if they hatch?

[TailFeathers]

Then:
How will you incubate the egg(s)?
How will you rear the young if they hatch?

No incubation of th eggs and parents rear the chicks.

The previous post is associated with work in collaboration with people who are our acting consultants from universities.

I will not post the methods, but the results only as current AI has a success rate of one in twelve fertilized eggs.

[Niki_K]

It sounds interesting, and could prove to be a useful technique for conservation purposes if it works.

[TailFeathers]

It sounds interesting, and could prove to be a useful technique for conservation purposes if it works.

It will. The answers were discovered by brining a friend of a friend who took high speed footage during mating time. We saw exactly what was going on. We are now trying to fine tune the techniques we discovered, hopefully it all works, but the weather here is killing us. The electricity will go out and of the birds get cold... The eggs or birds get ruined.

Keep posted.

[SamDavis]

It will. The answers were discovered by brining a friend of a friend who took high speed footage during mating time. We saw exactly what was going on. We are now trying to fine tune the techniques we discovered, hopefully it all works, but the weather here is killing us. The electricity will go out and of the birds get cold... The eggs or birds get ruined.

No incubation of th eggs and parents rear the chicks.
The previous post is associated with work in collaboration with people who are our acting consultants from universities.
I will not post the methods, but the results only as current AI has a success rate of one in twelve fertilized eggs.

Please excuse me for being sceptical of your project. It belies belief that you would embark on such a project without a reliable power source. It is also difficult to fathom why you make a point of posting here, yet are not be willing to "post the methods". Results are ALWAYS completely meaningless without method. No research of any value that is even remotely associated with any University would operate in such a manner.

I await a response to my earlier questions...

[Tiaris]

Then:
How will you incubate the egg(s)?
How will you rear the young if they hatch?

No incubation of th eggs and parents rear the chicks.

The previous post is associated with work in collaboration with people who are our acting consultants from universities.

I will not post the methods, but the results only as current AI has a success rate of one in twelve fertilized eggs.

If you can't convince your birds to mate and nest naturally as per your previous posts, how do you plan to convince the same birds to incubate eggs and rear young after you have poked & prodded them to immeasurable stress levels?

[Niki_K]

Then:
How will you incubate the egg(s)?
How will you rear the young if they hatch?

No incubation of th eggs and parents rear the chicks.

The previous post is associated with work in collaboration with people who are our acting consultants from universities.

I will not post the methods, but the results only as current AI has a success rate of one in twelve fertilized eggs.

If you can't convince your birds to mate and nest naturally as per your previous posts, how do you plan to convince the same birds to incubate eggs and rear young after you have poked & prodded them to immeasurable stress levels?

Excellent point, Tiaris. I think the key here would be to use a bonded pair (ideally an infertile male, which would be difficult) and develop a fairly quick procedure to try to ensure that the pair raise the young as their own. As finches can store sperm for 14 days, you'd really need an infertile male to ensure all offspring are the result of the insemination, or you may end up with a mixed clutch- if the insemination is successful, and if there is no apparent sperm competition within the female sperm storage tubules (or the inseminate ejaculate 'wins'). Its likely to be a long and difficult process.

[vettepilot_6]

Personally I think TF is pulling our legs PMSL....