what are we

[BENSONSAN]

Realy hard to tell the hen looks like a normal green back to me. But the cock bird still looks like theres a fair bir of green on his back with alot of blue around his neck and tail, hard to tell.

Ben

[nixity]

The cock is definitely a blue - otherwise his belly wouldn't be cream colored like it is.
If he was normal, his belly would be bright yellow as most normals are.

The hen does not look "normal" to me, but she also doesn't look blue.
Could be the photo, but she gives off the impression to me of being Sea Green or Par Blue almost.

As for her head, she is BH YTB, her father must have been OH/BH.

[Leigh]

to me the cock looks like the very rare(well Australia blue) turquoise it is shown in the guide to gouldians revised edition on page 103 just a opinoin or its a strain of blue

I agree with Fincher, they look very similar

[Diane]

maybe one of your blue birds is........

http://pets.webshots.com/photo/27857940 ... 3760vNSetJ


and the other one
http://users.skynet.be/fa398872/engoulm14.htm

[nixity]

He definitely doesn't have a Pastel.
First - they can only be males, and the other bird he has is certainly a hen.
Second, you can easily distinguish a Pastel from a regular Blue because the Bib (and any black on the bird) is muted to a gray.

[Diane]

We need some closer pics I think......get that camera out Grumpz