Do mice catch and eat finches?

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Masterfincher
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Hi again,
I have previously posted about my finches disappearing; I could only conclude that they were stolen. I have since found a pile of body parts outside the aviary, where something has dragged them and eaten their bodies, ripped their wings off, and scalped them - only the softer parts have been eaten. The only way into this aviary was possibly by pushing some foam corrugated-iron filler aside, then dragging the birds back through. After setting heaps of traps, I have only caught 2 mice. About a week later, more birds started disappearing from another aviary; a few each or every second day/night; again, the only way I can see something could get in is about a 10mm gap around some foam filler. These birds were all left in the aviary, with chests eaten.
My question - could mice be doing this amount of damage? about 20 birds went missing overnight from the first aviary - seems a lot for a mouse/mice to eat, but I haven't seen any sign of rats. Could it be anything else? I thought butcher birds, but the pile of bodies was found in the eaves of my shed a couple of feet from my aviary, with the only way in being through the gaps in corrugated iron.
Any thought would again be appreciated :) I have taken all birds from these aviaries until I find the cause. Luckily, my other 3 aviaries are unaffected so far.
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Tiaris
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I'd bet on an antechinus (native carnivorous marsupial - mouse size). What your describing fits their MO perfectly & you live in an area where they would be.
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Nasty. Have you tried setting traps with meat for bait? Hope you can locate and eliminate the problem. Sounds like you will need to put metal gap fillers into these avairys.
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arthur
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Not mice, though mice will chew through the crop wall of youngsters to eat the seed therein

My guess is rats

My rat 'medicine' . .

Ratsak type poison, an arrowroot biscuit, Nutella, icing sugar or lorikeet mix, (used to use a drop of vanilla as an attractant but not really necessary)

I have an old kitchen hand-mincer and all the ingredients are passed through it a couple of times to get the Nutella to blend . .

Vary the rat poison brand from time to time, and observe the commonsense precautions

Works for me :thumbup:
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Tiaris
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Antechinus typically eat brains, heart, liver first & dismember the body thoroughly are extremely agile & mouse-sized. Any typical mouse or rat baits work well on them.
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Totally agree with Tiaris.These little critters will return over and over again once they have worked out the way in and will decimate your birds.Only two solutions,eliminate the culprit and fix the gaps.
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Masterfincher
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Ok, maybe I should have checked the mice more closely before disposing of them: they could be antechinus. And yes, I have been trying some salami stick and peanut butter for bait, that's what caught the 'mice'. Maybe I'll set some more smaller traps - I have mainly got rat traps out atm. And yep, I'll have to spend a lot of time using metal filler instead of foam I suppose. Just wonder why it his happening now, considering I've had birds her about 3 years with no previous problems. Thanks for the replies so far :)
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Rodents will generally be bad in dryer summers here. So what is your summer like so far? (so I have to permanently be aware of the sods)
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when rats first hit my aviaries about 3 or 4 years back they targeted any finch which had red in its feathers. so the first to go in large numbers were the pied diamonds ruddies stars and so on.
this may sound a far fetch story and hard to believe but later I read somewhere that rats can pick up that particular colour of the spectrum better so a much easier target to zero in at night.
they actually came in through a hole they ate through the gyprock shelter and removed all birds back through the same hole. plus the odd ones they left dead on the floor with the heads half eaten off.
at the same time I was running a huge amount of zebra finches ( something like 200) which got out of control and I don't think I lost many if any at all.
I found talon was the best bet for them and did a quick job at wiping them out
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Long time ago had rats get into an aviary and overnight kill 20 or 30 Cut-throats that belonged to my son

That seems to support the 'red' theory until you consider that 50% of them were hens

Their 'modus operandi' was a bite or two out of the meaty breast and that was all

Just a wanton killing spree . . all killed in one night
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