Single finch

13 Apr 2011, 20:22

Why not another canary ?

14 Apr 2011, 05:08

finchbreeder wrote:That's why I said I knew the sex of the chicks right from the start. Cause fawn is sex linked. The dad is a fawn dilute pied out of a chestnut fronted cock and a fawn dilute pied hen. The mum is a normal gray out of a gray black fronted cock and a normal fawn hen. But there was some doubt as to mums parents carrying dilute.
Are you saying that dilute is dominant in the way that pied is?
LML

NO Pieds are Recessive in zebs
This may help

Genetically pure birds are those which only produce genes for their own visual colour, split birds produce genes for their visual colour and also genes for the other colour forms which are masked within their genetic make up. When a bird is pure i.e. a pure Normal, it is written as Normal, when a bird is split i/e Normal split for Pied, it is written as Normal/Pied. For he purposes of this list of matings, colours can be regarded as either Recessive, Dominant or Sex Linked, these terms referring to their relationship to the Normal colour form.

Pieds, Whites, , and Yellow Beaks are recessive Colours.

Dominant Dilutes i.e. Silvers and Creams are Dominant Colours.

Fawns, Sex Linked Colours.

Normal X Recessive Colours (e.g. Pied, Which can be substituted by any other recessive colour)

Normal. x Pied. = 100% Normal/Pied..

Normal/Pied. x Pied. = 50% Normal/Pied + 50% Pied..

Normal/Pied. x Normal/Pied. = 25% Normal, 50% Normal/Pied + 25% Pied..

Normal/Pied. x Normal. = 50% Normal + 50% Normal/Pied..

Pied. x Pied. = 100% Pied..

Normal x Dominant Silver (Dominant Silvers can be double factors (d.f.) or single factors (s.f.) Regard (d.f.) Silvers as pure Silvers and (s.f.) as silver/Normal).

Normal. x (d.f.) Silver. = 100% (s.f.) Silvers..

Normal. x (s.f.) Silver. = 50% Normal, 50% (s.f.) Silver..

(s.f.) Silver. x (s.f.) Silver. = 25% Normal, 50% (s.f.) Silver +25% (d.f.) Silver..

(d.f.) Silver. x (s.f.) Silver. = 50% (s.f.) Silver +50% (d.f.) Silver..

(d.f.) Silver. x (d.f.) Silver. = 100% (d.f.) Silver..

Double factor Dominant Dilutes are quite rare, the vast majority of Dominant Dilutes are single factor birds.

Normal x Sex Linked (e.g. Fawn which can be substituted by any other sex linked colour).

Normal Cock. x Fawn Hen. = 50% Normal/Fawn Cocks + 50% Normal Hens..

Normal/Fawn Cock. x Fawn Hen. = 25% Normal/Fawn cocks 50% Fawn Cocks & Hens +25% Normal Hens..

Normal/ Fawn Cock. x Normal Hen = 25% Normal/Fawn Cocks 50% Normal Cocks & Hens + 25% Fawn Hens..

Fawn Cock. x Normal Hen. = 50% Normal/Fawn Cocks + 50% Fawn Hens..

Fawn Cock. x Fawn Hen. = 100% Fawns Cocks & Hens

14 Apr 2011, 08:34

jusdeb wrote:Why not another canary ?

I don't have much luck with the canaries having had two die in the last 6 months so think I will stick to the Burkes and the Budgies.

After sleeping on it I'm going to see if I can find little Fred a great new home with lots of finches.

14 Apr 2011, 08:39

It's up to you of coarse, but don't right off Canarys, I assume you bought your Canarys at a pet shop which more than likely were old birds a breeder unloaded. Try to find a breeder and buy a young bird, as on the most part Canarys are a hardy bird.

14 Apr 2011, 10:22

The trouble with being a finchbreeder who spends lots of time with a budgie breeder (mother) discussing pairings etc. is that when I am tierd the brain starts to scramble the types and not realise I am doing it.

Was thinking of the way that Dominant pied budgies show up in their clutches. I do get it when I am not tiered and concentrating.
But my sincere thanks to you for putting me on track about Dilutes, as I am new to them and, obviously mistaken about the mode of inheritance. Got them from a pet shop who knew nothing about anything. And loving the pastel effect have been experimenting to see what happens. Now I can do so in a more informed way.

So again thanks NSW.

LML

14 Apr 2011, 12:26

finchbreeder wrote:The trouble with being a finchbreeder who spends lots of time with a budgie breeder (mother) discussing pairings etc. is that when I am tierd the brain starts to scramble the types and not realise I am doing it. Was thinking of the way that Dominant pied budgies show up in their clutches. I do get it when I am not tiered and concentrating.
But my sincere thanks to you for putting me on track about Dilutes, as I am new to them and, obviously mistaken about the mode of inheritance. Got them from a pet shop who knew nothing about anything. And loving the pastel effect have been experimenting to see what happens. Now I can do so in a more informed way. So again thanks NSW.
LML

Your welcome any questions just ask.
Garry

20 Apr 2011, 19:49

you could get a new bird for it like another zebbie

20 Apr 2011, 21:50

WOOOOO SHANNY'S BACK WOOOOOO!!!!!