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Oh dear ....

Of course any birds sold by me have DNA certs to prove the sex of the birds .

The same as I would not buy a bird that was sexed with a dangly thingy ( not stupid you know ).

This was something new to me and I was curious about it .

"Here we go again " yes I do that sometimes ...that is look outside the square , it prevents the onset of narrow mindedness . :D
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:lol: :lol: Not an annoyance Deb, I had a great time answering, got it off my chest, ya know. I would hate for others to be taken in by these deluded people who probably believe in what they are doing. Still trying to get the $ 175 back somehow, but it gives me a cause in life. As I said they will be right half the time with one bird, and a third of the time if it's a pair. :)
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Well the guy at Branxton has previously "sexed" parrot finches for me. Unfortunately I got two hens. He just about sold the method to me at the time as well. :D


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Please don't fall for that piece of unscientific clattrap.
I have seen wedding rings ,magnets ,special rocks, special cubes etc etc etc.used and all work!!!!!! Rubbish
Sorry I will still pay my $15 per test and get an accurate finding.
As said earlier,why won't it circle or go back and forth if held by an inert fixture.
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I will always use DNA testing to sex birds . I was very tempted to buy the pair of birds however it seemed that the only way to tell what the hen was, was by using the dangly thingy , common sense told me I would still be unsure .

I will play with it for a bit of fun but as said DNA testing will always be done especially on birds for sale .

It was an odd thing to see the first time but the second time made me think about how many people use it .

Oh well myth BUSTED so back to the ouija board for guidance (JOKING).

Ioas ..he does seem to be very convinced that his method works doesn't he .
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Had this done to a pair of bengos, male was a hen female was a cock the best part I still got a pair bit not accurate.
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The company that I use M.D.A. (Molecular Diagnostic Services) sounds so much more professional than "Magnetic Device Sexing"! Now doesn't it? :lol: :lol: :lol:
How things change over the years, modern practitioners of the device use string , it used to have to be done using a wedding ring hung from long human hair(not sure if it had to be plucked from a vestal virgin or not) to tell anything from the sex of an unborn baby to how old you were depending on how many times it swayed. :crazy:
Show me the science behind it and I will be a believer. :thumbup:
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The old stringy thingy, thanks for the memories jusdeb, my dad thought that was the best thing since sliced bread 25 years ago.He tried and tried to sex peachface lovebirds with that thing.I think he eventually realised there was nothing in it and it was inaccurate.DNA solutions do a good job and so far ive found the feather testing 100 % accurate.Ive only had a dozen or so birds done though.
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Yep DNA solutions do mine too . Good mob , quick and easy .

First fella I saw used a silver cross on a silver chain , plucked it from his neck with great style .
Yesterday it was string and a small round whatsit that screws onto a small bolt , carried it in his hand the whole time I was there .

Cant show the science behind it , its not up to me to prove it right or wrong . If its what people believe in , then we need to respect their beliefs .

If we want birds of a particular sex then that little piece of paper from the DNA lab is the only real proof ...well 99% proof.
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While we are on the subject of sexing birds, I often use another "Gizmo" called a "Mirror" It works particularly well with monomorphic pigeons and doves. A reasonable sized mirror is placed near where the suspect male likes to sit and any male courtship (which only the males will do) or aggressive behaviour is noted as he displays or tries to court the trespasser. A hen will normally ignore the reflection or go over and sit with it. This has saved me many a DNA sexing fee.
Has any else used this method with other species. I haven't tried it but I think it would work with monomorphic finch species to induce singing in the males.
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