Whilst on the forum I noticed a signature that caught my eye. I found this impressive- Always I hearer only? at no time to deposit? Please correct if needed.
I myself struggle with the correct use of the English language, I had to use a translator for this one, sounds like we have an academic, teacher or he is just old school taught student amongst us.
PS I am not trying to ridicule you, just I am envious of others with a second language albeit an old one.
Impressive Signature???
- mattymeischke
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I wish I spoke Latin properly, but unfortunately not.
It is the first line of Juvenal's first satire, and could be translated: Must I always be a listener? Never get a word in?
It has been directed ironically at me in the past, because I am a wordy opinionated loudmouth.
I put it on because I am rereading the satires now, in parallel translation so I can bash through the Latin and maybe learn some.
I was a bit concerned I would seem a total nob, and maybe I was right.... (i.e: a bit of ridicule would probably be fair)
I am neither an academic nor a teacher; I fear my profession is a little less worthy.
At highschool in 1988 I asked to learn Latin (we were offered French and Japanese): I was curtly informed that it was a dead language which would be of no use to me in the future.
At university I wanted to do it as an extra subject but was told it would distract from my 'real' studies.
Funnily enough, I now use Latin (disguised as scientific English) almost every day in my working life, which is why I try to learn some every now and again.
BTW, Juvenal is well worth a read for those who aren't familiar with him, and is strikingly relevant in this debauched and degraded age in which we live.
Free translations are abundant on the internet.
Thank you for noticing my signature.
It is the first line of Juvenal's first satire, and could be translated: Must I always be a listener? Never get a word in?
It has been directed ironically at me in the past, because I am a wordy opinionated loudmouth.
I put it on because I am rereading the satires now, in parallel translation so I can bash through the Latin and maybe learn some.
I was a bit concerned I would seem a total nob, and maybe I was right.... (i.e: a bit of ridicule would probably be fair)
I am neither an academic nor a teacher; I fear my profession is a little less worthy.
At highschool in 1988 I asked to learn Latin (we were offered French and Japanese): I was curtly informed that it was a dead language which would be of no use to me in the future.
At university I wanted to do it as an extra subject but was told it would distract from my 'real' studies.
Funnily enough, I now use Latin (disguised as scientific English) almost every day in my working life, which is why I try to learn some every now and again.
BTW, Juvenal is well worth a read for those who aren't familiar with him, and is strikingly relevant in this debauched and degraded age in which we live.
Free translations are abundant on the internet.
Thank you for noticing my signature.
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Seems like from the little I have read that he was quite the social commentator of his day, and not holding back in his feeling towards some of his fellow citizens.mattymeischke wrote:uvenal is well worth a read for those who aren't familiar with him

Diane
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The difference between Genius and Stupidity is, Genius has it’s limits
- mattymeischke
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Indeed, BB, he is positively acidic about his society.
After reviewing the absurdities and excesses of his age, he declares "difficile est saturam non scribere": It is difficult not to write satire.
I wish I could articulate my anger and frustration so elegantly and forcefully.
After reviewing the absurdities and excesses of his age, he declares "difficile est saturam non scribere": It is difficult not to write satire.
I wish I could articulate my anger and frustration so elegantly and forcefully.
Avid amateur aviculturalist; I keep mostly australian and foreign finches.
The art is long, the life so short; the critical moment is fleeting and experience can be misleading, crisis is difficult....... (Hippocrates)
The art is long, the life so short; the critical moment is fleeting and experience can be misleading, crisis is difficult....... (Hippocrates)
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Yours signature still sounds great, if only I could say the words correctly, and now with more added meaning. Never heard of Juvenal's first satire! I put this down as something new learnt to today.
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