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- jusdeb
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IM still not understanding this class 1 and class 2 license . On mine there is begginner and advanced .
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- arthur
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The differences from state to state, and the differences within a state from time to time are frustrating and alas a sad indictment of the 'experts' who put these guidelines in place
Uniformity nation wide is desirable, whether it be with regard to rules of the road, education curricula, rail gauges, or fauna regulations
In Qld in the early 70's, under the 'new' act, Painteds, Bloods, Pictorellas, Yellowrumps, and Gouldians were illegal to keep . . not because of any scientific or conservation reason, but because they had not been mentioned in the previous Act of 1952 . . the new act was basically a 'cut and paste' . . much easier than actually doing some thinking of your own
Quite a bit of 'civil disobedience' and a few tears . . but all can now be legally held and those once taboo Gouldians are licence exempt
Then in 2003 another new act allowed Qlder's to keep (decades later than other states) a pathetically small number of softbills . . The 'Softbill List' was again a botched up cut and paste from the lists of other states which defied scientific reason, uniformity with other state acts, and logic . . An example being the omission of the Redbacked Wren . . even though all of the other 'malurus' wrens had been included
No redress seems available . . deputation after deputation has failed
Some people defiantly, do hold birds that are 'illegal' in the "Smart State" . . but quite cosher in other domains (perhaps reminiscent of the 70's) . . and I see nothing immoral in this . . but those who prefer to sleep soundly at night continue to be denied the rights that are afforded to others because they live on the wrong side of some imaginary line
Too much law; too little justice
Uniformity nation wide is desirable, whether it be with regard to rules of the road, education curricula, rail gauges, or fauna regulations
In Qld in the early 70's, under the 'new' act, Painteds, Bloods, Pictorellas, Yellowrumps, and Gouldians were illegal to keep . . not because of any scientific or conservation reason, but because they had not been mentioned in the previous Act of 1952 . . the new act was basically a 'cut and paste' . . much easier than actually doing some thinking of your own
Quite a bit of 'civil disobedience' and a few tears . . but all can now be legally held and those once taboo Gouldians are licence exempt
Then in 2003 another new act allowed Qlder's to keep (decades later than other states) a pathetically small number of softbills . . The 'Softbill List' was again a botched up cut and paste from the lists of other states which defied scientific reason, uniformity with other state acts, and logic . . An example being the omission of the Redbacked Wren . . even though all of the other 'malurus' wrens had been included
No redress seems available . . deputation after deputation has failed
Some people defiantly, do hold birds that are 'illegal' in the "Smart State" . . but quite cosher in other domains (perhaps reminiscent of the 70's) . . and I see nothing immoral in this . . but those who prefer to sleep soundly at night continue to be denied the rights that are afforded to others because they live on the wrong side of some imaginary line
Too much law; too little justice

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Deb,
It is officially Class 1 and Class 2 not advanced and bigginer.
Thanks Nathan
It is officially Class 1 and Class 2 not advanced and bigginer.
Thanks Nathan
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Arthur!!!!! How well put was all that you wrote.
It conjured up a comparison with certain religions where it was a mortal sin to eat meat on a Friday, and those that did and died with that sin on their "soul" went straight to hell never to be released. Meanwhile some "power that be" decides that this medieval punishment for such a comparatively victim free crime is a tad over the top, considering that you would get the same punishment dished out to you for rape, murder and adultery. Hey, may as well go out with a bang and commit all of them. Not sure if there is a gradation system happening in hell ( more sins = hotter spot). It is now not even a "venial "sin to eat meat on a Friday so what has happened to the massed who were cast into eternal damnation pre amnesty ?
I for one, whilst keeping myself "protected" refuse to bow to laws that have no logical reasoning behind them. 



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You have so it's complicated, you need a license for the content of birds. We do not have. The ban is on some birds of prey. Finches caught dozens, select the best one for the song, someone of color, and the rest released.






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Do you also need a Licence/Permit to keep mutations of Native Parrots/Finches?
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There is no distinction between normals and mutations when it comes to licensing ( otherwise how would you categorise a split, or worse still a possible split)?vettepilot_6 wrote:Do you also need a Licence/Permit to keep mutations of Native Parrots/Finches?
Therefore, if the normal needs a licence, then so do all the mutations of that same species.
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I would agree but I can't find any reference in the Licencing side of that...Myzomela wrote:There is no distinction between normals and mutations when it comes to licensing ( otherwise how would you categorise a split, or worse still a possible split)?vettepilot_6 wrote:Do you also need a Licence/Permit to keep mutations of Native Parrots/Finches?
Therefore, if the normal needs a licence, then so do all the mutations of that same species.
The Bitterness of Poor Quality Remains Long after the Sweetness of Cut Price is Forgotten