Breeding Between Sea Green, Blue & Red Faced Parrot Finchese

[bunyip1]

Greetings, Happy Holidays & Merry Christmas to all,

Has anyone tried to breed between the Sea Green and Red Faced parrot finches? Is this frowned upon at all or can it be done? If so, what are results in terms of colours and mutes. I am asking generally and not necessarily intending in acting on this. Thoughts and feedback welcome.

Cheers now,
bunyip1

[Buzzard-1]

The seagreen IS a mutation of the redface. It is damn hard to find pure redface without the sea green mutation gene.

[Pete Sara]

HI bunyip long time no hear lol...like buzz it can be done as they are the same bird its just a muation of the norm.

A blue face and red face mix a big NO NO as its a hybrid not a mutation.

IT all depends on if the male is sea green or the female as if the male( seagreen) is paired to a normal hen you will get males that are split to sea green , female that are sea green and female that are just normal as females can not be split for sea green .

Have I lost you yet. But the big down side like buzz has said is that pure normal red face are or will become scarce as pure lines will be lost....pete

[bunyip1]

Hey Poitta,

It is a real shame when pure lines become lost over time as a result of either deliberate and accidental breeding endeavours.

BTW, while I've been quiet and out of the picture, I get regular updates from my other half, 'Mrs Google", on the latest Forum news:)

Thnx for the info on RF Parrot Finches and much appreciated.

Cheers,
Bunyip1

[Pete Sara]

have a go with a sea green and a pied, well thats what I would do , but thats me wanting to keep my line of reds as pure as.....I am not to worried about mutations as they do have there place....pete

[Danny]

The seagreen IS a mutation of the redface. It is damn hard to find pure redface without the sea green mutation gene.

Not entirely true - every single normal coloured female produced is guaranteed sea green free.

[flap]

So pete, are you saying breed a pied SG to a SG, or a normal pied to a SG? hopefully there will be some pied normals available in the next few months.

[MadHatter]

The seagreen IS a mutation of the redface. It is damn hard to find pure redface without the sea green mutation gene.

Not entirely true - every single normal coloured female produced is guaranteed sea green free.

I guess that makes it somewhat easier to cull out for those who want pure normals, as in any pairing of visually normal birds that produce a seagreen, it will always be the cock that is the culprit. It also makes it less fraught when getting new blood in, so long as you only get hens.

[Tiaris]

Agreed, sex-linked mutations such as SG RFPF are the easiest mutation to purge back to normal. Just dispose of any normal looking male which produces SG female offspring as definite split SG. I did it 6 years ago with a couple of pairs which produced a few SG hens & haven't bred a SG since. The autosomal recessive mutations (eg. WB Gouldian, Yellow Painted, etc) are the hardest (virtually impossible to be sure) to breed back to pure normals.