Breeding A White Fronted Blue Hen To A Normal Cock

[peterrebecca]

Hi,

Is it okay to pair a white fronted blue scarlet hen to a normal red fronted scarlet cock?

Thanks in advance for your replies.

Peter & Rebecca.

[nswchainsaw]

Yes all the young will be Normal split for Blue

[arthur]

Yes, if you wanted to be a purist . . and nothing wrong with that . . you would forget the 'white fronted' bit, and just call it a blue scarlet

[TomDeGraaff]

I believe the white-fronted blue scarlet is actually a combination of the parblue and the seagreen - both "bluish" but separate mutations.
If you mate a white-fronted blue (of either sex) to a normal, you will end up with birds that are all split for both parblue and for seagreen.

[Alf63]

Tom,

You are correct. Split for both.

Alf63

[TomDeGraaff]

Thanks, Alf.
It probably sounds a bit pedantic but if you mate two "split white-fronteds" together, the chance of getting a white-fronted chick is a lot less than two splits for a single factor. People who buy pairs of "split white-fronted" would be disappointed in the likely proportion of white-fronted young. In truth, they should not be described that way, they should be called double splits.
Cheers
Tom

[Myzomela]

And just to confuse things I think originally there was also another white fronted blue scarlet which was a single mutation. I am not sure how it differed visually from the ones Tom is talking about (if at all) but I suspect they all got mixed up and the true recessive wfb scarlet was lost.

[arthur]

And just to confuse things I think originally there was also another white fronted blue scarlet which was a single mutation. I am not sure how it differed visually from the ones Tom is talking about (if at all) but I suspect they all got mixed up and the true recessive wfb scarlet was lost.

Well you live and learn . .

Terry Martin's book refers to the AR Blue Scarlet as a primary mutation which must have been the one referred to above as lost

[peterrebecca]

Thanks for the fantastic replies everyone.

Peter & Rebecca.

[SamDavis]

Thanks, Alf.
It probably sounds a bit pedantic but if you mate two "split white-fronteds" together, the chance of getting a white-fronted chick is a lot less than two splits for a single factor. People who buy pairs of "split white-fronted" would be disappointed in the likely proportion of white-fronted young. In truth, they should not be described that way, they should be called double splits.
Cheers
Tom

I'm learning too - I thought the white front blues were a single mutation.
Split to split you get 1/4 coloured. So double split to double split the chance of double coloured (white-front blue) is 1/4 times 1/4 which is 1/16. At least you'll know what the double coloured are whereas the remaining 15/16 will just be a cacophony of this and that.
(NB. the word cacophony is used entirely in an attempt to impress Arthur - hope I have the context correct!)