Finch pasty vent blocked

[Raven11]

Is this an avian vet? Or a small animal vet?

The avian vet here has retired, I have spent weeks trying to find one closer and, in fact, I may have done just that although it is quite far away and I don't drive. The vet I saw was not an avian vet, she is a small animal vet.

[Raven11]

Raven11 hope goes well for you what ever you try for the bird
Bengo's are $5 to $10 each here in Australia but it is up to the person how much you would spend on trying to keep it alive or infections it could have to pass on to your other birds so if it continues to show symptoms then the kindess thing would be to put it down.

Thank you, Psittacosis is something that I am worried about, however, I thought the urine was usually green rather than yellow? my birds are my pets in the same way people have cats and dogs so... I have spent hundreds on a "free bird" more than once. the question is though, no new birds, my birds have not been exposed to any other birds, they all lived together in an aviary so if one has it, they all do... where could it have come from?
I get paid next week, I will order a lab test for her and see what comes up, if nothing else it will put my mind at rest and give the others a clean bill of health too as they all lived together. Currently shes in a hospital cage separated from the others. (in my kitchen) as she is ill, I do all the other birds (currently in my living room!) first and then she gets tended to last. everything is cleaned well, I use F10 on everything, it gets sterilized with Milton, washed with dish soap and hot water, and then a spray of F10 which I allow to sit then wipe off (if its on their food bowls or water tubes otherwise its left to air dry).

I am not going to lie, im a little nervous here.. if it is that.

[Raven11]

Fb when I looked at the pics again I am leaning towards psittacosis as I had a hen bluecap with the same sort of droppings in fact I ended up in hospital for 2 weeks diagnosed with psittacosis that nobody wants to experience. Over a week on doxicycline infusion.
I could be wrong but I don't take chances anymore but I don't want to scare people either.

Interesting.. I cleaned the cages this morning, changed the food to plain seed and put a small bit of millet in. I cleaned her vent this morning, chrecked her throughout the day, and just went to get a drink snd check she was still clear and able to poop. She was still clear round her vent. She pooped in front of me dand this is what came out. Pic taken seconds later.

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[finchbreeder]

I am hopeless with diagnostics. But hope that all goes well for you and the little one.

[Raven11]

Hi thank you guys. I appreciate the support. I was recommended an excellent avian vet who does online consultations.
I had a video consultation this morning and he has diagnosed psittacosis unfortunately. I have ordered doxicycline and I've to do a 6 week course of that with all the birds. Thankfully im feeling fine but will stay aware of symptoms. The consensus is that they have picked it up off the wild birds who live closeby so I may need to rethink having the outside flight.
Hopefully someone else in the future will find this helpful.

[Craig52]

Wow that's not good beware humans can catch it and believe me I know.
If vet is correct, there's hope me for to diagnose finch diseases although I've kept and bred finches for 60 years so I have abit of experience.
Even still I would cull it with that disease and move on to treat your other birds before it goes on to effect the loss of your other birds and yourself.
You need to thoroughly clean everything you or your birds come into contact with as it is a notable disease and very contagious here in Australia not sure about the UK.

[Raven11]

Wow that's not good beware humans can catch it and believe me I know.
If vet is correct, there's hope me for to diagnose finch diseases although I've kept and bred finches for 60 years so I have abit of experience.
Even still I would cull it with that disease and move on to treat your other birds before it goes on to effect the loss of your other birds and yourself.
You need to thoroughly clean everything you or your birds come into contact with as it is a notable disease and very contagious here in Australia not sure about the UK.

Hi Craig, believe me I know that as well, I have masks here which I will be using when I am around the birds and cleaning, I will also contact my GP tomorrow and speak to someone (hopefully). I am a little concerned but, nothing I can do now.. what was your experience of this?
Its been 14 days so they will all have it now, it will not make much difference at this stage whether I cull or not... some of the other birds are showing similar signs. I have doxycycline on the way and the vet has told me to treat them all for 6 weeks regardless of being symptomatic.

Because they live in an aviary they will all have been exposed to it. I will also have been exposed to it although so far I feel just fine. I am very liberal with the F10 cleaner thankfully and do regularly clean, most days I will brush up the husks and remove the droppings and deep clean once a week. but always spray a lot of the F10 about. I do wash my hands a lot as well thankfully.

The vet I spoke with is one of the top vets in the uk and specialises in exotic animals (his practice is part of a Zoo, and he also keeps birds himself). He seems to think its worth treating them all and I will go with that for the moment, otherwise out of my 16 finches I would have to cull most of them and all the canaries.
Oddly though my Gouldians seem better than the others, still singing and dancing and lively.. its just the bengalese and the canaries that are showing more symptoms, but they are also eating well and singing, active and lively and the bourkes are not showing any signs. I use italian cages for the most part and they are all separately divided panels at the back and sides so hopefully that will also have slowed down the infection.

All of the birds will be staying in the one room in my house (my living room) until treatment has ended. there is no point in bringing the infection into their shed and infecting that space. Once treatment has ended and I do a fecal pool test I will use an F10 fogger in that room and deep clean everything. The assumption is they got it from the wild bird population that is in the area. There is a family of pigeons living close to the shed and a lot of gulls, corvids, starlings etc that come here to eat the bread etc that the bakery behind me and my next door neighbour throws out. after that I will be rethinking the outside flights - although they are covered the pigeons do get close to the birds outside by landing on my storage box.

it is not a notifiable disease here and is quite rare - about 12 reported cases a year. I guess I just got unlucky

[finchbreeder]

It does sound like you got unlucky. But you also have a situation that attracts a lot of risk - with the wild birds being attracted by the food supplied by the Bakery.
All the best for a sucessful outcome for you and the birds.