Are YH recessive?

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We have a gouldian hen that was sold as a YH but is actually a very dark orange, almost red. For this reason, and because we like the very light and clean YH, we put her with the RH and she mated with a RH. One of the juveniles out of that aviary (that has another 2 RH pairs) looks like he will be a YH. My question is would he be a "pure" YH, or is he split to RH and can therefore throw back RH chicks? If YH is recessive then it shouldn't be a problem but I am not sure if that is how the head colour works. Thank you :)
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yep, YH is autosomal recessive.
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Thanks Spanna, I was hoping that would be the case. So one of my RH males must be split to YH.
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Hi

Yes to get a YH from this pairing the RH cock must be split to YH.

If the YH youngster is a hen then it cannot not be split for anything, if it's a cock then it's possible it could be split for BH if your RH Cock is split YH & BH, a YH cannot be split RH.
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I thought it was a hen as the chest feathers that are starting to colour up are light, more mauve than purple. But then "she" started to sing. :lol:
although if it is recessive how can other colours come in, as it would be "yy". is the gene somehow sex linked?
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Someone correct me if I am wrong. But some colours are dominant and some are recessive. Obviously a bird will show the Dominant gene. And just carry the recessive gene. However if there are 2 recessive genes at the same leval (think of the genetic inheritances as a triangle) they can both be carried and either can wind up showing. Depending on which the bird gets.
Which is why a RH x YH can produce both RH and YH if he is split YH. And if by chance a RH x YH pair of sibs get together and produce all 3 head colours then there is a recessive BH gene in there.
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This is where I get confused. If there is a RH split to YH, say it is Rr and a YH being rr, the only combinations I can see are Rr (RH split to YH) or rr (YH). Where would the BH gene come into it?
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Hi Flap,
I find this site explains head colours etc about as well as any - http://www.finchinfo.com/genetics/lady_ ... colors.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Hope it helps. :)
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Have you got the Gouldian Genetic forecaster?
Can be used offline
http://www.ladygouldianfinch.com/features_software.mgi" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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you can also visit this website as well http://www.amadinagouldove.cz/gouldian- ... e/english/
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